Little question about "Shadow ranger" achievement, spoilers included.

[Chulainn]

So i'm currently doing ranger hardcore run and trying to combine it with the "bad ending" achievement (did normal run and got good end), but i want to know if killing Lesnitsky ruins Shadow Ranger or not. Same for Pavel, but i assume he's free to kill as it has been stated that you can kill freely during his level.

I have done my best to not get good karma and did evil ♥♥♥♥ as i could, but i would like to max out my chances and get both achievements on this run since killing those 2 gives a lot negative karma.

I already tried googling A LOT for this, but could not find an answer. Wiki says nothing either :/

[bulletshowerr]

Shadow ranger = dont kill anyone except you get forced to. So i am curious what you actually did "to be evil as you could" but keep shadow ranger intact?

You cant kill anyone at whole game except: chase+train, D6 shielded guards+flamethrower, all animals/monsters.

[blunus]

The only exceptions for the Shadow Ranger is: The Chase, Red Square and D6. Killing Lesnitsky will void the achievement because the Depot level he is in doesn't force you to fight, it's entirely focused on stealth.

[cuss]

Shadow Ranger = don't kill anyone unless forced to. Lesnitksy and Pavel are both optional kills tied to karma, I'm pretty sure killing them will negate Shadow Ranger.

[bulletshowerr]

Originally posted by blunus:

The only exceptions for the Shadow Ranger is: The Chase, Red Square and D6. Killing Lesnitsky will void the achievement because the Depot level he is in doesn't force you to fight, it's entirely focused on stealth.

Some say the first few soldiers (not shielded) from D6 will void Shadow Ranger achievement? I didnt try that way so i cant say if it is true or not.

[Rubenjackson]

From what I was reading a few weeks ago, the only human enemy you can kill is the one using a flamethrower in the D6 battle.
You have to shoot from above with the Preved or another weapon, at the fuel depots without killing the shield carriers.
Once the depots explode, enemies with shields will automatically die.

A developer back in the day said that if you killed the enemies in Red Square, you still got it. Some people get it like this and others don't.

[Swerver]

I got the achievement and only human enemy i killed was the shield flamethrower and shield enemies in the d6 chapter.

[Romwy]

I beat the game twice just for this achievement and didn't get it.

The first time I killed everyone in pursuit, train, square and D6, as the developers said.
The second time I only had 2 kills on the railcar during the chase and flamethrower in D6.

I think I completed the achievement twice, so I just hacked it. I advise you to do this too, and say hello to the crooked developers

[bulletshowerr]

Originally posted by Romwald:

I beat the game twice just for this achievement and didn't get it.

The first time I killed everyone in pursuit, train, square and D6, as the developers said.
The second time I only had 2 kills on the railcar during the chase and flamethrower in D6.

I think I completed the achievement twice, so I just hacked it. I advise you to do this too, and say hello to the crooked developers :dkas_barrel:

Hacked by using SAM or hacked by removing user.cfg?

[Romwy]

Originally posted by bulletshowerr:

Hacked by using SAM or hacked by removing user.cfg?

SAM

[MADX0]

Originally posted by bulletshowerr:

Shadow ranger = dont kill anyone except you get forced to. So i am curious what you actually did "to be evil as you could" but keep shadow ranger intact?

You cant kill anyone at whole game except: chase+train, D6 shielded guards+flamethrower, all animals/monsters.

I'd guess he didnt listened to most conversation, gave bullets on request, played intruments, etc... so it is possible to not kill any human and still get the "bad" ending.

[weatlycore47]

From the Metro Wiki:
"This achievement is awarded to players for not killing a single human NPC unless the situation calls for it. Shadow Ranger playthroughs demand a stealth oriented strategy with minimal gunfire on human opponents and no unnecessary silent takedowns with the knife. Mutant kills, touching ragdolls with Regina, crushing them with the airlock in "Pavel", and knockout punches do not constitute against the achievement.

A developer from 4A Games has stated that all enemies on "The Chase", "Red Square", and "D6" levels can be safely killed and do not count against the achievement[1]. If the player does mistakenly kill a single enemy on a level other than those previously mentioned, they will have to start over with a New Game; reloading a chapter or checkpoint does not fix this[1][2]. The same dev also confirmed that taking filters from enemies gas masks (on the levels "Depot" and "Contagion") and moving over the bodies of knocked off bandits on a railcar (on the "Bandits" level) does not fail the Shadow Ranger playthrough[2].

Note that it's possible to beat all levels without killing anyone, and a few players make it a point of personal pride to beat the game this way. Hints helping achieve this are listed below."

[Chulainn]

Okay, personal update here;

I killed tons/all of human enemies on levels "The Chase" "Red square" and "D6", spared Lesnitsky, but killed Pavel during their encounters. Managed to still get the bad ending and Shadow ranger achievements on the same run.

Just letting people know in case anyone stumbles upon this in the future.