Victoria II

Victoria II

How to get Craftsmen?
I'm playing as Ottoman Empire, the Young Turks (Liberal) are in power and I have a horde of capitalists but barely any factories and craftsmen. The only reason I'm making money is because I colonized almost all of Africa and my POP is 21 mil already. The year is 1889 by the way and I have almost all commerce and industry techs. Please help I need to raise my industry score it's at 70.
Last edited by Vercingetorix; Feb 1, 2015 @ 7:54pm
< >
Showing 1-12 of 12 comments
Lembley42 Feb 1, 2015 @ 9:55pm 
You need higher literacy (Biologism @Culture Tech is very helpful for that since Darwinism grants a +50% Education Effiency) and you can promote Craftsmen in your most popolous states (by using your National Foci points. You can get more @Culture Tech).

Just go to the population tab, next to each region theres a small brownish box with a circle splitted through by an arrow. Click on it and Promote Craftsmen.

The higher your literacy is (just spend 100% on Education nonstop, research Biologism ASAP and so on) the more likely is it that your people will turn into craftsmen. You also need to build factories in every region at best of course (otherwise they wont spawn even if they could (well they do but they are much less likely to))
Vercingetorix Feb 1, 2015 @ 10:13pm 
Sorry I forgot to mention that my literacy is 85% I still don't know what's up.
Lembley42 Feb 1, 2015 @ 10:18pm 
Hm.. care to upload the savegame? You can find them in Documents -> Paradox Interactive -> Victoria II -> savegames.
Vercingetorix Feb 2, 2015 @ 7:09am 
Sorry, how to upload the savegame? lol?
Instinct Feb 2, 2015 @ 7:26am 
Vercingetorix Feb 2, 2015 @ 7:51am 
{LINK REMOVED} Here it is
Also if you notice I have a huge rebel problem ( 2 million communists and 2 million anarcho-liberal factions ). Anyway to lower militancy and decrease support for them?
Last edited by Vercingetorix; Feb 2, 2015 @ 8:10am
Gary Sinise Feb 2, 2015 @ 11:16am 
I had the same problem. Did you try to lower taxes and increase tariffs? And/Or try to change to a socialist/communist party. If that doesn't work grab the guns.
Lembley42 Feb 2, 2015 @ 11:40am 
Okay so a few things :

I dont know what people have with Capitalists, but to focus them is not useful at all. Only worth it early as the US since you cant change your goverment and have to stick to your laissez-faire its sort of useful to have a few in every region.
So just switch the foci to Craftsmen (and possibly later Clerks)

The "People's Union" seem to be much better if you like to stay liberal, since they are Interventionist (mean you can upgrade your factories yourself and subsidize them) and Full Citizenships (faster assimilation, the Ottoman Empire has many different cultures and that pisses people off).
By switching you should be able to enact a reform as well (which should settle down some liberals / communists since now you are making progres).
Note here that Healthcare is really op because it overall gives you +8% Population Growth per year (insane).
Otherwise, more voting rights etc. are always welcomed by the people in general.

They are anti-military however, so might wanna switch that in case of war. Until then, lower spending @military is annoying, but it seems you have way more soldiers than brigades anyway so that doesnt seem to interfere with your interests.

You can tax your rich into hell (e.g. 100%), it doesnt really matter all that much. Early in the game, its 99% Aristocrats that you tax, later on, its still like most earnings by aristocrats and if the capitalist want to make a project, they just do it anyway,.
You can also up your tarrifs considerably (sadly, it has no real downturn at all. Personally I also like to play with lower tarrifs, just because it makes the game a bit more interesting.) and in return, lower the taxes on the poor & higher military spending.
You should then have about +2k per day.
http://puu.sh/fnQo5/f9a8248565.jpg

If you then go to Industry, you'll see there are unemployment craftsmen in virtually every state. Thats bad, that reduces the willingness to become craftsmen for others quite considerably.
As soon you switch to either State capitalism / Interventionism / Planned economy, first thing you should do is go to Production and leftclick while holding shift on the little plus next to some factory. That will give an upgrade command to every factory that has 80+% craftsmen.
In fact, you can just upgrade every factory you currently have in this case, but as a general tip, if you dont want to care for your Industry too much, its still nice every 5-10minutes or so to go to Production and shift+click expand just to keep the growth running at a good speed.

Turning to state capitalism for a short duration would be also very useful, just build ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of all kinds of different factories all around. Really spam them out. It would annoy your people though since its ideology is not popular among them. Still, for a rather short duration it should be perfectly fine and you only want to start them.

[Care that if your party changes to something with laissez-faire, switch it back if possible as soon as possible and subdisize your factories again. If you really want, you can just stick to laissez-faire later, but for building your industry up from the ground (which you have to do here since you are far behind nations like the UK) subsidizations are really necessary]

You can also give a production effiency bonus if you produce the requried input in that region btw, but even though it is useful, its not necessary. (e.g. Glass factories produce +25% more in region that have coal. Liquor produce +25% more when theres a Glass factory and a grain province in the region (and only 12.5% if only one of the above).
Still, if you are a perfectionist, you can plan your economy that way (Planned Economy is best for that then though).


Lastly I gotta ask : why you have such a small army? You can levy three times the amount you currently have!

Hope that helps a bit!
Last edited by Lembley42; Feb 2, 2015 @ 11:44am
Vercingetorix Feb 2, 2015 @ 1:10pm 
THANKS! That helps alot actually, also should I remove Austria-Hungary from my sphere? They have a higher industry score than me, and it may be destroying my economy.
Lembley42 Feb 2, 2015 @ 3:46pm 
as long as you're subsidizing it should be fine. plus Austria-Hungary got alot of juicy Iron & Coal :)
Vercingetorix Feb 2, 2015 @ 4:36pm 
Lol ok. Thanks again lmao
The New Paradigm Feb 5, 2015 @ 6:00pm 
Get a very good literacy,and if you wish to improve your factories put the national focus on clerks
< >
Showing 1-12 of 12 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Feb 1, 2015 @ 7:54pm
Posts: 12