How to colonize as Swiss? I have all of Sardinian Lands (except Island)

[XPG]

I am allied with FR and have a good industry. I want to invade North Africa with the help of FR. When I try to justify war, should I first try to establish protectorate? I cannot see "colony" justification.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Yes...

[XPG]

Originally posted by richnathaniel9419:

Yes...

yes what lol? Whats the difference between colony and protectorate anyway?

[LasagnaMan12]

You need to be a great power, also you cant just press a button for Colony justification. Colonization also only works if the uncolonized land is next to you or if its accross the ocean and you have to have a few islands with major ports near the uncolonized land.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Originally posted by danielholmes098:

You need to be a great power, also you cant just press a button for Colony justification. Colonization also only works if the uncolonized land is next to you or if its accross the ocean and you have to have a few islands with major ports near the uncolonized land.

You do NOT need to be a great power you liar, secondary powers can colonize as well. As far as the establish protectorate CB goes, I'm pretty sure even regular civilized nations can use it as I think I used one early on in a Papal States campaign I played. Also, was it really that hard to say "if the uncolonized land boarders you or if it's in your colonization range"?.

[LasagnaMan12]

Originally posted by richnathaniel9419:

Originally posted by danielholmes098:

You need to be a great power, also you cant just press a button for Colony justification. Colonization also only works if the uncolonized land is next to you or if its accross the ocean and you have to have a few islands with major ports near the uncolonized land.

You do NOT need to be a great power you liar, secondary powers can colonize as well. As far as the establish protectorate CB goes, I'm pretty sure even regular civilized nations can use it as I think I used one early on in a Papal States campaign I played. Also, was it really that hard to say "if the uncolonized land boarders you or if it's in your colonization range"?.

Your a big ♥♥♥ for calling me a liar because i made that stupid mistake, besides why would it matter if Sweden could colonize, its no where near any uncolonized islands or provinces.

Also i dont think you play victoria 2, because you dont seem to know anything about how the colonization mechanics work!

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Originally posted by danielholmes098:

Your a big ♥♥♥ for calling me a liar because i made that stupid mistake, besides why would it matter if Sweden could colonize, its no where near any uncolonized islands or provinces.

Also i dont think you play victoria 2, because you dont seem to know anything about how the colonization mechanics work!

You really want me to own you, don't you? For starters it's You're* not "Your"; learn the difference, the letter "i" when representing yourself is always capitalised, he was talking about Switzerland; not Sweden, he has Piedmont under his control and what the f makes you think I don't know the colonization mechanics?

If uncolonized land boarders land you have sovereignty over, you can colonize it! Provided of course that you're a secondary power or above with enough colonial power spare, right? Same goes for coastal uncolonized land that's within your colonization range, RIGHT? My point was that you were over explaining it originally, exspecially since you added unnecessary details like it needing to be an island. It doesn't need to be an island you dunce, just any port/naval base that's close enough for the target coastal uncolonized land to be in it's colonization range.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Oh, and you have the necessary tech blah blah blah*

[LasagnaMan12]

Originally posted by richnathaniel9419:

Originally posted by danielholmes098:

Your a big ♥♥♥ for calling me a liar because i made that stupid mistake, besides why would it matter if Sweden could colonize, its no where near any uncolonized islands or provinces.

Also i dont think you play victoria 2, because you dont seem to know anything about how the colonization mechanics work!

You really want me to own you, don't you? For starters it's You're* not "Your"; learn the difference, the letter "i" when representing yourself is always capitalised, he was talking about Switzerland; not Sweden, he has Piedmont under his control and what the f makes you think I don't know the colonization mechanics?

If uncolonized land boarders land you have sovereignty over, you can colonize it! Provided of course that you're a secondary power or above with enough colonial power spare, right? Same goes for coastal uncolonized land that's within your colonization range, RIGHT? My point was that you were over explaining it originally, exspecially since you added unnecessary details like it needing to be an island. It doesn't need to be an island you dunce, just any port/naval base that's close enough for the target coastal uncolonized land to be in it's colonization range.

How i write things down have nothing to do with what were talking about

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

English please.

[LasagnaMan12]

Originally posted by richnathaniel9419:

English please.

Your rude like hell, im going to stop responding to you!

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Go back to school and learn English please.

[XPG]

Originally posted by richnathaniel9419:

Originally posted by danielholmes098:

You need to be a great power, also you cant just press a button for Colony justification. Colonization also only works if the uncolonized land is next to you or if its accross the ocean and you have to have a few islands with major ports near the uncolonized land.

You do NOT need to be a great power you liar, secondary powers can colonize as well. As far as the establish protectorate CB goes, I'm pretty sure even regular civilized nations can use it as I think I used one early on in a Papal States campaign I played. Also, was it really that hard to say "if the uncolonized land boarders you or if it's in your colonization range"?.

I agree with this because I did the establish protectorate casus belli against (I think algeria) and then I took over easily since they were exhausted. Then I declared war on the east side of morroco which was split from the mainland because of Spain so they couldn't give any soldiers there. I have 1 colony and one protectorate but I do not know the difference. Can someone explain?

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Originally posted by Snackbar Akbar:

I agree with this because I did the establish protectorate casus belli against (I think algeria) and then I took over easily since they were exhausted. Then I declared war on the east side of morroco which was split from the mainland because of Spain so they couldn't give any soldiers there. I have 1 colony and one protectorate but I do not know the difference. Can someone explain?

The difference is essentially just execution, how you acquired sovereignty over the land. However one thing I believe I've noticed, is how protectorates/colonial concessions get very poor immigration compared to colonies you start from scratch.

Or at least, that's true for a colony verse land you got via an establish protectorate CB etc. Once you win a colonial race or whatever it's called, you first actually establish a protectorate and not a colony. The difference with that kind of protectorate I think is that you can't recruit soldiers from there, you have to upgrade it to a colony which costs extra colonial power to maintain.

[XPG]

Originally posted by richnathaniel9419:

Originally posted by Snackbar Akbar:

I agree with this because I did the establish protectorate casus belli against (I think algeria) and then I took over easily since they were exhausted. Then I declared war on the east side of morroco which was split from the mainland because of Spain so they couldn't give any soldiers there. I have 1 colony and one protectorate but I do not know the difference. Can someone explain?

The difference is essentially just execution, how you acquired sovereignty over the land. However one thing I believe I've noticed, is how protectorates/colonial concessions get very poor immigration compared to colonies you start from scratch.

Or at least, that's true for a colony verse land you got via an establish protectorate CB etc. Once you win a colonial race or whatever it's called, you first actually establish a protectorate and not a colony. The difference with that kind of protectorate I think is that you can't recruit soldiers from there, you have to upgrade it to a colony which costs extra colonial power to maintain.

Yea, I became a great power and now I have sphere of influence over all Arabia Magna states (the ones below the Ottoman Empire, like Nejd and Yemen etc) so I want to colonize there.

I also have a question... What do artisans, beurocrats, and aristocrats do? I have no reason for them in my game and I feel like they are affecting my industrial score. I am only #8 GP because of my huge prestige from research (~80% educated) and I sometimes lose ground to Bavaria; keep in mind that there are almost no small states left in Europe as North German Conf. started really early.

Bavarias industrial score is 140 while mine is like 40, I have the 30th best industry with 4 factories (3/4 are level 2) and railroads all level 2 --I also built the tunnel which grants level 6 infastructure in Bern.

I am falling behind in economy and 50% of my factories aren't earning much, I have to subsidize them. See, the thing is that I don't have clerks too and am mixed up in this whole industry-points thing. What even increases that?

[linutika]

You must be a secondary power or a great power to colonise. You can only colonise uncolonised provinces, otherwise, Establish Protectorate casus