How to stop socialism/liberalism taking over the world?

[si_guy]

I understand that during this time period socialist and liberal ideas were gaining massive popularity, but it always seems a bit much in this game. Like in my current playtrhough as the German Empire, I have constant socialist and liberal revolts, and my upperhouse is basically red and yellow at this point? Any help for someone who just wants a conservative Prussian constitutional kingdom?

[jswilliams]

I concur. I tried (on vanilla) to never take an option that seemed to forward liberalism. I do now realize ALL the political reforms are favored by Liberals, and so their popularity I suspect is somehow linked to advancing Political Reforms...even though

1) this isn't made clear that that's a consequence and

2) Conservatives benefit JUST AS MUCH from these political reforms irl.

But in game terms the rising tide seems unstoppable.

The game becomes sooo centered on dealing with the semi-frequent Revolt when really one uprising of that sort should be THE defining revolt of the century. After crushing ONE 60 brigade strong Anarcho-Lib Uprising, that should leave the kind of hereditary scar/wound it would take a few generations to recover from.

Not
"Let's RISE UP! And I'll just forget what happened to my dad, mom, grandparents, 3 older brothers, 2 older sisters, seventeen cousins and ALL their friends, because it seems like a great idea to march into teeth of disciplined soldiers carrying breech-loaders like we do every few years because too dumb to live but stubborn enough to be an inconvenience."

[Fritz Bittenfeld]

This game was made in the Soviet People's Socialist Communist Liberal Democratic People's Republic of Sweden, of course it's biased towards them.

[jswilliams]

SPSCLDPRS

Has a ring to it.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by si_guy:

I understand that during this time period socialist and liberal ideas were gaining massive popularity, but it always seems a bit much in this game. Like in my current playtrhough as the German Empire, I have constant socialist and liberal revolts, and my upperhouse is basically red and yellow at this point? Any help for someone who just wants a conservative Prussian constitutional kingdom?

The Pop: Demand - Divide by Zero mod made the reforms mechanic more interesting. You can manipulate the crowd to get what limited reforms you want and even maintain a monarchy by cleverly giving and revoking reforms when the time is right. After springtime in the nations I got by as Prussia with only giving up meeting rights and censored press. The reforms even reward and punish certain ideologies so more authoritarian governments can be more warlike.

[si_guy]

Originally posted by 786543:

Originally posted by si_guy:

I understand that during this time period socialist and liberal ideas were gaining massive popularity, but it always seems a bit much in this game. Like in my current playtrhough as the German Empire, I have constant socialist and liberal revolts, and my upperhouse is basically red and yellow at this point? Any help for someone who just wants a conservative Prussian constitutional kingdom?

The Pop: Demand - Divide by Zero mod made the reforms mechanic more interesting. You can manipulate the crowd to get what limited reforms you want and even maintain a monarchy by cleverly giving and revoking reforms when the time is right. After springtime in the nations I got by as Prussia with only giving up meeting rights and censored press. The reforms even reward and punish certain ideologies so more authoritarian governments can be more warlike.

Oh that sounds alot better. Do you have a link to the mod? My current playthrough is my first, I wanted to learn the game pretty well before modding it. Any other mods you'd reccomend?

[Hat8]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/divide-by-zero-a-pdm-modmod.650849/