USA, vanilla. Basically, what/how Civil War?

[jswilliams]

I'm not seeing a CSA/Reb Movement, just ping-pong Consciousness (which is really high everywhere) due to Decisions, adding Free States and a never-ending tide of Events regarding Slavery.

So *what* tips the bucket over? Republicans getting elected? Liberals? Liberals are steadily gaining power. Does the threat of the War of Northern Aggression pass? (sorry, Virginian by birth...old joke)

Speaking of, I wish the Southern Dems were in power, because Capitalists are *dumb* when it comes to building factories in States.

Fabric factories in the South dang it! Steel in Pennsylvania, not #$%^&* Washington D.C.

As always thanks.

[what am i doing]

War of Northern Aggression is only an inaccurate name insofar as you're all southerners from up here in Canada :) but it was certainly a war of aggression by the Northern states to rule over the Southern states because Lincoln was a power-hungry bastard.

Anyways, you need John Brown's Raid and Dred Scott Decision to have fired, the Upper House to be at least 40% Liberal, and slavery to be allowed.

For John Brown's Raid you need a Non Slave State with average consciousness at least 6 and your upper house must be at least 10% Liberal. It will most likely happen after 1860 due to MTTH modifiers.

Dred Scott v Sandford you need a Slave State with average consciousness at least 5 and your upper house must be at least 10% Liberal. It will most likely happen after 1860 due to MTTH modifiers.

So basically wait on 1861.

[jswilliams]

Ok so sounds inevitable.

And all apologies. War of Northern But Only To The Border Of The United States Aggression!

[what am i doing]

Surprisingly accurate. Yes, it is pretty much guaranteed to happen past 1860.

[jswilliams]

My new thing now is grinding thru the late 50s early 60s at speed 4 and I kid you not getting interrupted every 2 seconds by one of the four MAJOR STUPID ISSUES. Seriously almost unplayable. Click, click, space bar to resume play. They even come in while the game is paused or 3 of them will stack on each other.

Really stupid game mechanic. Real simple, if I'm not cracking down on Anti-Slavery Riots, then I'm not. I don't need to be asked for every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ province in every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ state in the whole stupidf ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ country.

[MamaJem]

War of Northern Aggression? I think of it as the war of Southern Stupidity. I am a Yankee incase you are wondering.

[what am i doing]

Originally posted by 52696e676c6561646572:

War of Northern Aggression? I think of it as the war of Southern Stupidity. I am a Yankee incase you are wondering.

The southern states wanted their autonomy and not to be ruled by dictates from the north. The north wanted to enforce tyranny over the south and went to war to maintain it.

[Dimensional Traveler]

I don't think this is the place to discuss the various political aspects of the American Civil War.

[jswilliams]

Originally posted by dtravel:

I don't think this is the place to discuss the various political aspects of the American Civil War.

Yeah, my bad. To me it's just an old joke...whatever the issues, they were decided and it's over.

In game terms I just want it over with, and I'm so sick of Copprheads, Knights of the Golden Whatever, London Underground Resistance Movements, etc. popping up literally every 3 seconds.

[walter]

Its possible to skip the civil war completely, although i dont know exactly which condition sneed to be met for that. The wiki might be able to help you out here (although paradox wikis are... lackluster).

[MamaJem]

Originally posted by walter:

Its possible to skip the civil war completely, although i dont know exactly which condition sneed to be met for that. The wiki might be able to help you out here (although paradox wikis are... lackluster).

It is not adviced to skip it. The American Civil War makes African Americans an Accepted culture.

[walter]

Originally posted by 52696e676c6561646572:

Originally posted by walter:

Its possible to skip the civil war completely, although i dont know exactly which condition sneed to be met for that. The wiki might be able to help you out here (although paradox wikis are... lackluster).

It is not adviced to skip it. The American Civil War makes African Americans an Accepted culture.

Ooooh, good to know. That would have been great to know :D

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I don't want the African Americans to be an accepted culture . . . because I'm playing as Mexico, and all the former slave populations in the Americas are basically an assimilation engine waiting to be fired up once I get Mexico cookin.

[HerculeHolmes]

I've been trying to supress it by:

1. No Mexican-American War
2. Holding off on enacting the events that would delay the war until things heat up sufficiently.
3. Securing an Alliance with Mexico and focusing on expanding diplomatic influence in South America.
4. Enacting reforms to make more and more people eligible to vote, thus increasing the number of liberals in the legislature.
5. Focusing on economic reforms to improve quality of life for the entire nation to reduce tensions.
6. Setting Immigration as the main focus for the most conservative southern states to try to dilute the areas most likely to support secession.

So far, I've managed to delay the war until the 1880's at the latest in my last playthrough. I'm still trying to fine-tune my strategy.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by what am i doing:

Originally posted by 52696e676c6561646572:

War of Northern Aggression? I think of it as the war of Southern Stupidity. I am a Yankee incase you are wondering.

The southern states wanted their autonomy and not to be ruled by dictates from the north. The north wanted to enforce tyranny over the south and went to war to maintain it.

The southern states didn't care about states rights as their main issue. The fugitive slave act of 1850 forced northern states to accept slavery and return "property".

Also, they forced California and other new states where slavery did not exist to have a pro-slavery senator to become a state to maintain the slave-free balance.

They seceded over slavery but oddly enough, the Union didn't fight the war to end it until much later in the war.

[janaka42]

Originally posted by jswilliams:

My new thing now is grinding thru the late 50s early 60s at speed 4 and I kid you not getting interrupted every 2 seconds by one of the four MAJOR STUPID ISSUES. Seriously almost unplayable. Click, click, space bar to resume play. They even come in while the game is paused or 3 of them will stack on each other.

Really stupid game mechanic. Real simple, if I'm not cracking down on Anti-Slavery Riots, then I'm not. I don't need to be asked for every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ province in every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ state in the whole stupidf ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ country.

Not played Vicky in ages, but iirc you can right click on a message and select settings on how and when you want messages to display. So you can prevent pop-up messages.

Edit: Oops. Obviously turning off pop-ups only works for messages that don't require you to click a decision. My bad. Should have read the post properly.