What can you bear about Austria

[Belfiore]

I choose this State, so im interested to hear our opinions and where with it you reached. Hello!

[Lembley42]

What exactly do you want to hear?

The extent of how powerful you can make Austria?
Well, the most obvious would be to form Germany, thus ending up with Greater Germany which is ridicolously OP.

I only played Austria personally in Multiplayer where such things naturally are a bit harder. I annexed South Italy and very large chunks of Russia (to Moscow) and created a mass bordergore :)

[what am i doing]

The most powerful you can make Austria is to become the Danubian Federation with all the cultures accepted (pure RNG unfortunately) and having expanded into Romania and Poland; with all cultures accepted this will give you a tremendous industrial score. In BAI, you can also get North Italian as an accepted culture if you created Italy (easily done), and North German as an accepted culture if you hold Schlesien, which would let you blob into Germany proper and half of Italy for the most powerful country in any version of the game.

[Lembley42]

@1989 That's definetly not unmodded game though

[what am i doing]

Originally posted by Lembley42:

@1989 That's definetly not unmodded game though

Nobody in their right mind plays vanilla. It's always safe to assume they'll be playing either BAI, HPM, or HFM, or maaaybe /gsg/vickymod but in any case all these mods share most of their features in common such as being able to form the DNB.

[Lembley42]

Most mods in Victoria are broken beyond repair. Vanilla is fine. Able to form dozens of formable nations ain't an improvement on the game.

Like it or don't but most ppl start at least the game with vanilla. Going from post to post of new players and first act if they play your favorite mods, then act surprised and disgusted if they might do is sort of pointless.

[what am i doing]

Originally posted by Lembley42:

Most mods in Victoria are broken beyond repair.

You're joking, right? Historical Project Mod, Historical Flavour Mod, and Blood & Iron are all in much better condition than the vanilla game. Really... name any one thing that's broken about any of those three mods, go ahead, I'll wait.

Meanwhile in vanilla you can form Germany in 1840, westernize the Qing Empire in 1850, Japan starts unified???? What the ♥♥♥♥? No Boshin War? Colonization is a mess, Africa in general is bizarre and ahistoric, the Crisis system kicks in decades before it actually should, containment wars are a joke and have no economic component, etc.

Vanilla is a huge mess, and almost everyone plays with some form of NNM derivative mod, typically HPM. So it's safe to assume they'll be playing an NNM mod, and not full ♥♥♥♥♥♥ vanilla HOD with westernized Qing Empire in 1850 or unified Germany+entire Austrian Empire with zero infamy (!!!!) in 1845.

[Colorjuice14]

I use mods personally but I think that most people don’t use them. There should be some sort of poll for this...

[Belfiore]

I don't know the seens of this acronimous, i don't play yet the expansions neither i know how get them. In Austria i only be able to annex large italian south when they broke alliance with france, but when i tried to get surrian lands initially i won easily but then they, also allied with britain, rebring the only one region i had from Europe. And i dont tell about the prussia and german federation. I find that some times u can't win battles without a true reason. And this is stupid. What I wrong?

[Lembley42]

The game uses a dice mechanic to "randomise battles" to a degree. However, with a well setup army and generals they shouldn't interfere with a war in general too much.

Perhaps you just have a bad setup, didn't handpick generals or fight in bad conditions (attacking over rivers I hilly positions etc)

[Belfiore]

I think this game is not really rational, in deed i never have good number of able generals, so often neither the bad are big enough for my brigades. In the second when i attack enemyes 99% i have wrong position. In the third i dont understand why the german empire was invincible also when military statistics was 66 for each one. There are no explainations.

[Lembley42]

What do you mean by rational?
It's a computer program and just relies on calculations.

Generals are randomly created. What you want to look out for is high "+Atk" and/or "+Def" values. Morale, Organisation etc. matters little.

The military score is just basically a big approxomation of the size of your army and navy.
You can check their Army tech and Army size by clicking on them -> Diplomacy -> Show Wars -> check on the right info panel. If you hover over their brigade count you can see their tech level.

If you are in the wrong position, thats not the problem of the game. If you attack over a river you get -1 on your rolls. If you attack onto forest/hills you get another -1. Mountains are even worse.

So if you attack, try to attack into plains, best without a river in the way. You can see the rivers on the provinces if you zoom in a bit. With good advantage you can attack into unfavorable terrain too, but best is to have the advantage of course.

Don't attack 30k with 31k ofcourse - the bigger your advantage in strength, the less absolute casaulties you will suffer. If you attack 1000 with 1100 you might win, but only after losing enormous amounts of soldiers. If you attack the 1000 with 10000 then you will win without losing any.

There are plenty of explanations actually - just hover over any value or icon to read how its made up. If in battle, see the battle screen on the left and look over it - it'll quickly make sense to you.

see also:
https://vic2.paradoxwikis.com/Reference_guides
https://vic2.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare

[Rubberface]

Originally posted by Lembley42:

Most mods in Victoria are broken beyond repair. Vanilla is fine. Able to form dozens of formable nations ain't an improvement on the game.

Like it or don't but most ppl start at least the game with vanilla. Going from post to post of new players and first act if they play your favorite mods, then act surprised and disgusted if they might do is sort of pointless.

I beg to differ. While some mods might be clunky or broken, I have been playing Vic 2 with the Historical Flavour mod for all my games. Vanilla just goes to show that the devs didn't do too much of their history homework when it comes with nation varities and events. For instance, the Scramble for Africa/colonization segment of the 1880's is very dynamic and much more improved than vanilla.

[Hat8]

People have conquered the world as Austria.