Sepia Tears

Sepia Tears

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Got every achievements all at once.
I actually played this game a while back and got all of the old achievements (around 5 of them?) way before the release of the Reprise Edition along with the new achievements. I also uninstalled the game back then when I finished it.

Then, I heard announcements of the new Reprise Edition, I bought it and re-installed the game again.

When I run the game on Steam, I chose to start with the Original version, started the game again from scratch, then read through until the 1st chapter.

It was a bit after Rin woke Mark up in the 1st chapter, I suddenly got every single of the new achievement all at once. Is this some kind of error?
Last edited by >Thompson_971013; Jun 26, 2020 @ 9:23am
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eternal  [developer] Jun 26, 2020 @ 1:41pm 
Hi there. It's most likely not an error, because the game syncs your save file against your achievements every time an achievement is unlocked. So, if you played the game before and had a save file lying around - either in AppData OR in the Steam install directory - then you would instantly unlock the achievements that you "should" have unlocked, based on the fact that you already played the game.

It gets a bit complicated because Ren'Py keeps two copies of the save file on your computer.

When you started the game, did it look like a fresh save file, i.e. with no CGs unlocked and the default title screen?
>Thompson_971013 Jun 26, 2020 @ 10:05pm 
Originally posted by eternal:
Hi there. It's most likely not an error, because the game syncs your save file against your achievements every time an achievement is unlocked. So, if you played the game before and had a save file lying around - either in AppData OR in the Steam install directory - then you would instantly unlock the achievements that you "should" have unlocked, based on the fact that you already played the game.

It gets a bit complicated because Ren'Py keeps two copies of the save file on your computer.

When you started the game, did it look like a fresh save file, i.e. with no CGs unlocked and the default title screen?

Hi eternal,

Thanks for writing back to me.

Yes, the game did started with no CGs unlocked (except for the 2 CGs and 1 SDCG) and the default title screen. But there were no save files that I made before.

I did check the save folder of the game Steam directory (SteamLibrary -> steamapps -> common -> Sepia Tears -> game -> saves), I saw 2 presumably save files which are "auto-1-LT1.save" and "auto-2-LT1.save" which was created around the same time as when I re-installed the game. Are those 2 file the ones you meant by "two copies of the save file" by any chance, and are they the saves that I made back when I first play through the game?
Last edited by >Thompson_971013; Jun 26, 2020 @ 10:12pm
eternal  [developer] Jun 27, 2020 @ 10:02am 
Nah, the other copy of the save file is in something like...
AppData/Roaming/RenPy/Sepia Tears ~midwinter's reprise~-1251418373

See this post: https://steamcommunity.com/app/429300/discussions/0/1681441347870846422/

The auto-saves shouldn't affect this. There should be a file called "persistent", and that's the important one.

That said... if the game booted with the regular title screen, that should mean that the game isn't cleared and that your save file was indeed deleted before you started.

Can you check the log.txt file in the game's install directory? I'm looking at the code on my end, and it's supposed to print "Attempted to unlock all achievements at launch" if you boot the game with a completed save file. If that's not happening, then I'm back to the drawing board, because there's nothing else in here that would grant all of the achievements all at once.
>Thompson_971013 Jun 27, 2020 @ 9:44pm 
Regarding the save files in the RenPy folder, it is possible that they are deleted when I upgraded my Windows. I was using an older version of Windows when I played this game for the first time before I had it upgraded, the process which deleted the files in the C: Drive.

As for the game itself, unfortunately I don't remember whether I installed it in C: or elsewhere.

Also, I checked the log.txt file, and there's no "Attempted to unlock all achievements at launch" written anywhere.

I can't entirely put this into words but, is it possible that the game somehow synced some of the progress I made back then and it suddenly recognized my completion to gave me all of the achievements even though I started the game from scratch?

If you can't figure this out, that's fine. This just looks a bit weird to me; but overall, nothing too serious. Thank you for trying to help me out.
eternal  [developer] Jun 28, 2020 @ 1:48pm 
I can't entirely put this into words but, is it possible that the game somehow synced some of the progress I made back then and it suddenly recognized my completion to gave me all of the achievements even though I started the game from scratch?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Technically that shouldn't happen, because these achievements didn't exist in the old copy of the game, so they shouldn't be sitting there waiting for a sync. But it certainly feels like that's what's happening.

For what it's worth, I just realized that the log.txt overwrites itself every time you boot the game, so it won't tell us about whether your old save file existed when you first booted the game.

Anyway - I'm not sure what else to do, but I think there's a high chance that it involves your previous save file somehow. Other people have mentioned similar issues, but I think it's always been from someone who previously played the game.

I might just remove the thing that auto-grants the achievements for people with a completed save file, because it's not that hard to ctrl through the game if you really want the new achievements - and it seems to cause more confusion than anything else.

But yeah, sorry for the confusion, and I hope you enjoy Reprise Edition!
Neutral Star Jul 13, 2021 @ 2:06am 
Also got every achievement at once, but I don't remember ever playing the game before.
Heraizen Jul 13, 2021 @ 6:11am 
Never played the game before, got all achievements instantly when starting a new game.
eternal  [developer] Jul 13, 2021 @ 9:25am 
Oh, I just thought of something else that might have caused this. I just pushed another update, and it's currently working for me.

I deleted my save file via the in-game menu, removed the "50% Crit" achievement via the Steam console, and then booted the game again. The achievement didn't unlock until I ctrl'd to the appropriate point in Day 1.

Traditionally this has been a tricky problem to reproduce and debug because Ren'Py has a weird way of dealing with save files (it puts saves in both the install directory and AppData). But hopefully this works now. Please leave a comment if it's still acting up; thanks!
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