Survival still sucks...

[Ozman]

I know, I know, it's possible to survive as any one of the many fish in it, and it can be fun when you do.
But that's only 10% of it.
The other 90% of it is farming up to 50 coins as a butterfly fish (No, I can't really play as the same fish for 3 hours, if you want, you can call that a low attention span.), and then losing all of you coins when you spawn as a different fish, and either:
A, Get killed by some stupid fish when you spawn.
B, Starve to death because the devs don't know what "too little food" means.
C, becoming an adult gets bugged, can't find mates, or the game crashes.

I don't usually like being rude about how a dev makes his or her game.
And heck, I loved this game, and I still play the other modes.
If you're going to release a game mode for a game, make it enjoyable at least.

All I'm saying is, is that I can't really have fun when I have to spend hours, or be really lucky, to progress to another fish in a game, when I'm gonna end up quiting after another hour, because I got bored.
Add more food in the map (And if you have to, make it so only those that depend on starfish and sponges, benifit more to it, while those that are capable of hunting, and surviving long enough to catch something, wont benefit from starfish and sponges.).
Make it so you can get more coins or make things cheaper.
THEN you can continue adding new stuff to the game.

TL;DR
Add more food, make stuff cheaper, THEN add more stuff.
It isn't fun when you spend all your time farming, then lose it all because you have an unlucky (which is very common.) spawn.

P.S
I mean the devs, AND the game well, but sometimes, things just need to be said.
I loved this game, and still do, but I also really wish I could enjoy the survival mode.

Fish love to all ya'll.

[ssgtbaloo]

I don't miss the black scaley nodules that, once broken into four parts, always seemed to contain one part that was completely inedible unless your fish was big enough to swallow it whole. The fact that starfish give more points now helps, but sea urchins and star fish don't seem to be distributed very evenly, and plankton "feeding stations" are often near predators that would be happy to chow down on your immature fish. When I'm startibng out, the safest bet is to eat things that won't bite back, but there aren't very many things like that in some parts of the map, and baby fish are slow and appetizing.

It's really difficult to find food as a baby fish when you start in the Arctic. Where's the small bits of stuff for baby fish to feed on? NPC adult fish never seem to kill anything to feed their babies (intentionally, that is, I've gotten lucky once or twice), and finding it for yourself is fairly dangerous and not very productive. I usually end up trying to get to a part of the map where I know I'll find food before I can starve to death. That's not always a safe bet, either.

As far as finding mates goes, It can be difficult to "get lucky",especially if you haven't been playing long enouhg to figure out where to find other adults of your species. Only yesterday I found out where the other cuttlefish hang out, and it's not really close to any of the places I've hatched as a cuttlefish. I'm still not sure where to find the other Giant Groupers when I'm playing one that's finally gotten big enough to mate, because the place where I spawn as one always turns out to be very dangerous and almost-but-not-quite a food desert, and when I make my way back, all the other giant groupers seem to have moved away without leaving a forwarding address.

[Dinocanid]

Instead of playing the butterfly fish for 3 hours straight, why not upgrade when you get about 20 coins? Instead of 50? I usually buy progressively stronger fish instead of skipping ahead because it's less risky that way. If I spend all of my coins on a new fish I need to start from square one if I get unlucky as a baby, so I make sure I have "buffer coins". Maybe about 10. I've never spent more than 20 mins as a butterfly fish though.

I agree there needs to be more smaller and easier to catch food outside of the "hotspots". Such spots include both beaches and that part of the depths where the blobfish hang out. (seriously blobfish are easy buffets). In the rest of the ocean, you're too small and slow as a baby to catch other fish yet, and there aren't any starfish or edible coral in a lot of places, not to mention they just buffed crabs so those are dangerous to hunt now if not big enough.
When I start in the arctic by the way, I immedietly swim to the depths where I can feed on the blobfish. Doesn't excuse the fact there's nothing for arctic babies to eat though in the..well...arctic.

I've actually been lucky enough to not lose my own species since you always spawn into a group of them (at least in my experience?). I have had situations where a megalodon or other huge predator decided to hang around at the same moment I hatched though.

[Mr.Megalodon]

i think its fine for what it is. Sure some spawn points need to be moved and some fish numbers increased, but i don't think those are really big enough bugs to garner hate (at least from me). If you're having trouble with coins, you can try different farming techniques, such as earning a lot of coins and then playing as a less expensive fish so even if u do die or can't mate, you still have coins to use. And maybe they could have a system so the number of food, prey fish and predators corresponds to the difficulty like they did with the new update

[sandpitturtle3333]

Too much text to read late at night, but, best thing I can currently say to you?

Don't skip ahead on fish unless you're certain you can manage.

To make things A LOT EASIER and almost cheating. All dead fish will float upwards and when that corpse hits the surface it INSTANTLY turns into meat.
Useful if you don't want to waste time slowly biting a corpse, just drag it to the surface.
More useful though is to literally go swimming in different areas to find free meat, sometimes jumping out of the water to see above surface makes seeing free meat easier.

[sandpitturtle3333]

Just read your main post, if you want to know any small food places. Lemme know what map you mainly play and I can point you to what I know.

[Ozman]

First off, for sandpitturtle3333, I'm talking about survival, which is the great map.
Second off, jesus christ this got a lot of attention.
Third off, I generally know the map pretty well, I know the "if the body hits the surface of the water, it explodes." trick, and I DO try to play as the next fish, and not skip.
My ploblem is, is that I get bored before I get end game, and then quit, and then, I just lose all my progress (I know, I know, they've been trying to fix that, but It still happens sometimes).

I just feel they should work on the gameplay, and fix it, before they add new content.

[ssgtbaloo]

Originally posted by Ozman:

First off, for sandpitturtle3333, I'm talking about survival, which is the great map.
Second off, jesus christ this got a lot of attention.
Third off, I generally know the map pretty well, I know the "if the body hits the surface of the water, it explodes." trick, and I DO try to play as the next fish, and not skip.
My ploblem is, is that I get bored before I get end game, and then quit, and then, I just lose all my progress (I know, I know, they've been trying to fix that, but It still happens sometimes).

I just feel they should work on the gameplay, and fix it, before they add new content.

As much as I enjoy seeing new content, this guy has a good point.

[sandpitturtle3333]

Originally posted by ssgtbaloo:

Originally posted by Ozman:

First off, for sandpitturtle3333, I'm talking about survival, which is the great map.
Second off, jesus christ this got a lot of attention.
Third off, I generally know the map pretty well, I know the "if the body hits the surface of the water, it explodes." trick, and I DO try to play as the next fish, and not skip.
My ploblem is, is that I get bored before I get end game, and then quit, and then, I just lose all my progress (I know, I know, they've been trying to fix that, but It still happens sometimes).

I just feel they should work on the gameplay, and fix it, before they add new content.

As much as I enjoy seeing new content, this guy has a good point.

I third this, and I know of others who'll fourth and fifth it.
Balance and fixes should be the current priority at the moment.

[Dinocanid]

Yep, they've gotta fix the foundation first. THEN they can add new fish. I definitely would've taken some survival mode improvements over the placodermi update if it meant a more stable game.

[someone]

Originally posted by Ozman:

I know, I know, it's possible to survive as any one of the many fish in it, and it can be fun when you do.
But that's only 10% of it.
The other 90% of it is farming up to 50 coins as a butterfly fish (No, I can't really play as the same fish for 3 hours, if you want, you can call that a low attention span.), and then losing all of you coins when you spawn as a different fish, and either:
A, Get killed by some stupid fish when you spawn.
B, Starve to death because the devs don't know what "too little food" means.
C, becoming an adult gets bugged, can't find mates, or the game crashes.

I don't usually like being rude about how a dev makes his or her game.
And heck, I loved this game, and I still play the other modes.
If you're going to release a game mode for a game, make it enjoyable at least.

All I'm saying is, is that I can't really have fun when I have to spend hours, or be really lucky, to progress to another fish in a game, when I'm gonna end up quiting after another hour, because I got bored.
Add more food in the map (And if you have to, make it so only those that depend on starfish and sponges, benifit more to it, while those that are capable of hunting, and surviving long enough to catch something, wont benefit from starfish and sponges.).
Make it so you can get more coins or make things cheaper.
THEN you can continue adding new stuff to the game.

TL;DR
Add more food, make stuff cheaper, THEN add more stuff.
It isn't fun when you spend all your time farming, then lose it all because you have an unlucky (which is very common.) spawn.

P.S
I mean the devs, AND the game well, but sometimes, things just need to be said.
I loved this game, and still do, but I also really wish I could enjoy the survival mode.

Fish love to all ya'll.

imo im not having any problems with coins in survival.
i remember first time i came back to it after i played it a long time ago i was surprised by how much the map changed.
i grinded up to the ichyo with the butterfly.
then made a bunch of babys and grew them up lol
if you want coins in survival:
use cuttlefish. it is SOO easy to farm coins with them. the babies grow up super fast and give like 15-16 coins i think? maybe more. may sound like only a little but when you consider just how fast you can grow up your babies its the perfect fish for grinding.
unfortunately, thats basically the only purpose of the cuttlefish.

[someone]

Originally posted by sandpitturtle3333:

Balance and fixes should be the current priority at the moment.

^ https://steamcommunity.com/app/429050/discussions/0/1742216747657037834/ ... yeah. im just gonna leave this here.

[Dimitris]

no its prety damn easy every time i play i always grow to adult and make arround 5 times as much i used for the fish i am

[Ozman]

Originally posted by ☭ommunism101:

Originally posted by Ozman:

I know, I know, it's possible to survive as any one of the many fish in it, and it can be fun when you do.
But that's only 10% of it.
The other 90% of it is farming up to 50 coins as a butterfly fish (No, I can't really play as the same fish for 3 hours, if you want, you can call that a low attention span.), and then losing all of you coins when you spawn as a different fish, and either:
A, Get killed by some stupid fish when you spawn.
B, Starve to death because the devs don't know what "too little food" means.
C, becoming an adult gets bugged, can't find mates, or the game crashes.

I don't usually like being rude about how a dev makes his or her game.
And heck, I loved this game, and I still play the other modes.
If you're going to release a game mode for a game, make it enjoyable at least.

All I'm saying is, is that I can't really have fun when I have to spend hours, or be really lucky, to progress to another fish in a game, when I'm gonna end up quiting after another hour, because I got bored.
Add more food in the map (And if you have to, make it so only those that depend on starfish and sponges, benifit more to it, while those that are capable of hunting, and surviving long enough to catch something, wont benefit from starfish and sponges.).
Make it so you can get more coins or make things cheaper.
THEN you can continue adding new stuff to the game.

TL;DR
Add more food, make stuff cheaper, THEN add more stuff.
It isn't fun when you spend all your time farming, then lose it all because you have an unlucky (which is very common.) spawn.

P.S
I mean the devs, AND the game well, but sometimes, things just need to be said.
I loved this game, and still do, but I also really wish I could enjoy the survival mode.

Fish love to all ya'll.

imo im not having any problems with coins in survival.
i remember first time i came back to it after i played it a long time ago i was surprised by how much the map changed.
i grinded up to the ichyo with the butterfly.
then made a bunch of babys and grew them up lol
if you want coins in survival:
use cuttlefish. it is SOO easy to farm coins with them. the babies grow up super fast and give like 15-16 coins i think? maybe more. may sound like only a little but when you consider just how fast you can grow up your babies its the perfect fish for grinding.
unfortunately, thats basically the only purpose of the cuttlefish.

Hmm, never thought about the cuddlefish, I've never actually played it, I guess I'll try that.

[Gmattonline]

This game is too damn hard, i can't get the hang of it :(

[Ozman]

Ahh, an old thread.