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Anthelm 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 7:40
Centrifuge and logic
i'm trying to make centrifuges that with logic about what they send.

I tried a logic wire beween a conveyor and combinators but i can't do what i want:
Count 40 uranium 235 that passed the conveyor,
send a signal to activate another arm (one time) (sending uranium to another belt)

so, the centrifuges keep their uranium and send only the excess.

Anyone has an idea about how to do that?

Sorry for my english :p
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Nellvan 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 9:09 
You can count by plugging the output of a (U235 * 1 = U235) combinator back into it's input (set the belt to pulse). I'm just way to tired to remember or work out how the reset worked, I'm bad with logic; always keep forgetting this ♥♥♥♥. Look up " SR latch" ,the one using 3 combinators. NOPE

You can also do it like this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1277779184

All 3 stack inserters need to be set to overrride stack size to a divisor of 40 (like 4,5,8,10)

The one going back into the machine from the box is enabled if U235 = the same value as the stack override. The yellow one enabled if U235 = 1.

After the proccessing is done, the U235 gets moved around one stack at a time, at last there's one piece left, and that'll be put onto the belt.
最後修改者:Nellvan; 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 4:43
Nellvan 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 5:51 
Well I really messed that counter up.

Let's try again, a basic non-resetting counter: Connect a belt (or inserter) to a decider combinator, set it to read, pulse. Connect the output of the combinator to it's input. Set the decider to x > 0 , output : x,1

The same thing, but with " x < 40 " (for example) resets as soon as 40 things went by. I didn't manage to make something useful with that though. It seems like the reset happens instantly and I can't get anything to trigger on exactly that amount.

引用自 Zorz
why u want to do that? i can't see any sense..
Without it, a Kovarex centrifuge takes in 80 U235. When it starts working, 40 disappear from the input storage, and it can take in another 40. So each centrifuge can tie up up to 80 U235 that could already be used for something else. You could just ignore it, but considering the time it takes to get that stuff, it's worth it to do something about this.
最後修改者:Nellvan; 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 5:52
Killcreek2 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 6:01 
You don't need to use any combinators or wires at all.

Example: https://i.imgur.com/05uVyPL.png
The 4x stack filter inserters are set to stack size =10, plus 1x filter inserter set to stack size =1. Result: 40 are recycled back in automagically, 1 is output. Only uses the minimum of 40 catalyst too.
Anthelm 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 9:13 
引用自 Zorz
why u want to do that? i can't see any sense..

maybe u mean something like this
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1168056013

The link is actually helpfull so Thanks. If you can't see any sense to this, it's gonna be usefull for kovarex. You'll get to this point later in the game.
linux ISO collector 2018 年 1 月 22 日 下午 12:14 
This is so overcomplicated, it is unnecessary. What you need is 3 inserters, either fast or stack. One pushing u235 out and two pulling it in, all 3 on the same belt like so.

centrifuge
out in in
>>>>>>>>>>

Out inserter needs to be filter, or stack-filter.
This way the out inserter pulls out all uranium that is output by kovarex, and the other two make sure no uranium leaves the belt unless the centrifuge has enough to start the next process. Do keep in mind this keeps a buffer in the centrifuge, but after that buffer is filled (is like 30 u235 if im not mistaken) then the u35 is allowed to overflow because the in inserters wont pull any more uranium. You have to make sure you handle the u238 above the centrifuge, on another belt.
Nellvan 2018 年 1 月 22 日 下午 1:00 
The whole point of this thread is how NOT to let the buffer fill up, since that's a massive waste of processing time. (Particularly if you don't already process uranium for ages before you get to setting up the kovarex).

The buffer is 80. 2 times the cost of one product, same as in every assembler.
linux ISO collector 2018 年 1 月 22 日 下午 1:55 
oh ♥♥♥♥. my bad
Anthelm 2018 年 1 月 24 日 上午 2:49 
Ok thanks, topic closed, new splitters totally solved this problem. split 235, with priority to go back in the factory. Then, the rest will get out. Problem solved with the update :D
Nellvan 2018 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:23 
How does that solve the problem ? There's no new functionality there (for this case of usage) You could just run the output belt past an inserter picking the stuff back up, Like Man of School said.

I thought the problem was using only 40 U235 in each centrifuge ?
最後修改者:Nellvan; 2018 年 1 月 24 日 上午 4:26
fractalgem 2018 年 1 月 24 日 下午 6:57 
On rereading everything, I think he WAS having trouble making sure that he had AT LEAST 40 U235 in the centrifuge.
Anthelm 2018 年 1 月 24 日 下午 7:27 
Yeah. but still, having exactly 40 would be a good way to do it, i think i found a way to do it with logic.
Anthelm 2018 年 1 月 24 日 下午 7:29 
引用自 Man of School
T
centrifuge
out in in
>>>>>>>>>>

Cheap build and sometimes doesn't work well
Warlord 2018 年 1 月 25 日 上午 2:02 
引用自 Anthelm
Yeah. but still, having exactly 40 would be a good way to do it, i think i found a way to do it with logic.

It would be useful to start off, but once you have an excess amount of U-235and can spare the extra 40-80 in a centrifuge, it doesn't hurt anything to take the lazy way out and only capture the excess U235.

I do babysit my centrifuges to get them all running, but once they all are, I don't care if they build up their reserves for a bit. Maybe takes a teeny bit longer before I get any U235 out of it automatically, but the clean look for a zero-wire, zero-circuit-condition centrifuge setup is beautiful:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=921557763
最後修改者:Warlord; 2018 年 1 月 25 日 上午 2:06
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