Did they devs apolgize yet

[[They/Them] ChesseTheWasp]

Did the developer apolgize for supporting a bigot yet or what; want to know if its safe to buy the game or no. Haven't wanted to buy the game since the drama happend a few years ago

[Larry]

Първоначално публикувано от Topaz:

For those that want a source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/o34v6h/factorio_founder_rages_about_cancel_culture_after/

Seriously, digging up a four-year-old comment to back up your extreme left-wing nonsense? That's low even by your standards. We're here to talk about Factorio, not to listen to you pushing your politics.

This is a game, not a political rally. Keep your preachy stuff out of here!

You're a prime example of the cancel culture the dev was talking about - Just a left-wing bully spouting garbage and picking fights when somebody doesn't agree with you.

Lucky for us, most people today can see through your tactics. Trying to mix politics into every damn thing is like a neon sign on your back, screaming "I'm here to cause trouble!"

So how about you quit with the political BS and let us get back to our game?

[Larry]

Първоначално публикувано от RiO:

Първоначално публикувано от They/Them ChesseTheWasp:

Did the developer apolgize for supporting racists and sexists yet or what; want to know if its safe to buy the game or no
edit: ppl in the replies have corrected me in calling someone a transphobe when they were actually a sexist and racist. sorry

No- what people were saying is that the allegations against Robert Martin were that he made misogynist remarks; but that the circumstances of those allegations were never concretely proven and likely a complete fabrication based on an incomplete representation of some anecdotes Martin used to present during conference talks - i.e. outrage fabrication.

Pretty much what you are doing now as well; except of course for the case where you might somehow be able to substantiate those claims of yours with real evidence that transcends the boundaries of "I know a guy who [..]" et al.
Burden of proof lies with the one making the claim.

But also keep in mind -- even if those allegations were true, citing someone's professional work does not make you share their world view. Look up what "death of the author" means, in that respect. So whatever Robert Martin might've done or said, reflects in no way on Kovarex - and definitely reflects in no way on the entire staff at Wube.

Why would you even care what he said? Guy has his political opinion, let him have it.
It is these LGBT extremist that feel the constant need to pick fights and act aggressive towards other people.

They are a cancer on society

[RiO]

Първоначално публикувано от Larry:

Why would you even care what he said?

Ironically, because of the tolerance paradox.
For tolerance to exist, the one thing that should not be tolerated is intolerance, or it will fester. Unsubstantiated claims like this are nothing but another form of intolerance, trying to create an outrage mob. And it should be countered and stamped out.

[johntarmac]

Първоначално публикувано от They/Them ChesseTheWasp:

Did the developer apolgize for supporting racists and sexists yet or what; want to know if its safe to buy the game or no
edit: ppl in the replies have corrected me in calling someone a transphobe when they were actually a sexist and racist. sorry

So you're still ignorant of the facts or are you just ignoring them to keep your rage fuelled?

Първоначално публикувано от Larry:

It is these LGBT extremist that feel the constant need to pick fights and act aggressive towards other people.

They are a cancer on society

Don't be hard on them, it can't be easy when nature is telling them it doesn't want them contributing to the gene pool. Evolution is working to get rid of them, unfortunately it's very slow.

[MetalSpaceDust]

Blocked OP

[Hurkyl]

You're firing lots of stray bullets, @johntarmac, and you aren't even hitting the target. Plenty of homosexuals and trans people manage to avoid being extremists, and AFAIK, the majority of the extremists are so-called 'allies'.

[johntarmac]

Първоначално публикувано от Hurkyl:

You're firing lots of stray bullets, @johntarmac, and you aren't even hitting the target. Plenty of homosexuals and trans people manage to avoid being extremists, and AFAIK, the majority of the extremists are so-called 'allies'.

Nah, I don't think so mate.

[Trombepis]

Първоначално публикувано от Hurkyl:

You're firing lots of stray bullets, @johntarmac, and you aren't even hitting the target. Plenty of homosexuals and trans people manage to avoid being extremists, and AFAIK, the majority of the extremists are so-called 'allies'.

Who cares about a left wing extremist? They hit nazis with fists and bike locks. When there's a right wing extremist, you get hate crime stabbings, mass shootings, vehicular homicide, pipe bombs, etc.

[Hurkyl]

Great, now we have one guy pretending left-wing extremists aren't extreme and their victims deserve it anyways, and another guy equating left-wing extremism with homosexual/trans identity. Why is this thread still unlocked?!?!?!

[Fel]

Not sure why it's unlocked but I'm sure I'm unsubscribing and not coming back to this now that comments like those are starting to appear.

[Chindraba]

Първоначално публикувано от Hurkyl:

Great, now we have one guy pretending left-wing extremists aren't extreme and their victims deserve it anyways, and another guy equating left-wing extremism with homosexual/trans identity. Why is this thread still unlocked?!?!?!

This thread is not deleted, or even locked, because Valve/Steam seems to want it here. They've already been here and even deleted a few posts, without any notice, yet left the thread intact.
Factorio players are good at connecting the dots. Even when the result is an ugly picture.
The OP should have been banned - twice now - for the opening statement's libel and the edit's extra libel. But, who knows, maybe even Valve is scared of the extremists.

[mashtong54]

well in my opion the real reson this is a issue is bescue a very small vocal minorty of thsoe gruops make the most of them havea bed rep when its only the finatcal parts of the of thsoe gruops maeking eh whole gruop look far wrose then they realy are bascly. i know a few peaole form thsoe gruops and they act like onrmal peaole that are a bit werid but actaly repect your ponts of view. its just thsie days a very very very minor very very loud powerful and not very polite very small part of thsie gruops don't realy repesnt what the whoe gruop acatly does. like theres justa very small handful of jerks just ameknig everyone else look bad when they are not. also i'm a bigot but the worst you get out of me thinkng its a bit weird and knida doesnt realy work for keeping humanty form haveing poplation losses but thats bacly it. i just think its just weird. and not realy useful for anything realted to ameking offspring. but thats just my opion.

[Maniaq]

the dev can be saddam hussein himself or even deranged furry, game is still fun and has zero unnecessary social commentary

[DaBa]

OP, almost all people here already own the game, no need to sell us on it any further.

[CasualGamer]

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