Flashing when moving

[Januki]

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed and solved but when I zoom out to the max view and I then move (WASD) there is some sort of lightning/darkening effect, is there anyway to turn it off ?

[Fel]

Just to sort out the more obvious case(s) first, is your screen perhaps running at 144Hz or something similar?
The game is capped at 60 FPS (mostly due to how animations work with 2D sprites) so screens with a much higher refresh rate that is also not a multiple of it can end up giving some not-so-great results.

Higher quality screens tend to have things to counter it automatically but for the rest you usually have to set the refresh rate to 60 yourself.

[Chindraba]

Originally posted by Fel:

Just to sort out the more obvious case(s) first, is your screen perhaps running at 144Hz or something similar?
The game is capped at 60 FPS (mostly due to how animations work with 2D sprites) so screens with a much higher refresh rate that is also not a multiple of it can end up giving some not-so-great results.

Higher quality screens tend to have things to counter it automatically but for the rest you usually have to set the refresh rate to 60 yourself.

Actually it is more likely to be because of the better quality monitor. Those 'tools' built in to them tend to do more harm than good in this game. The 'intelligent' aspects of the monitor attempt to fill the gap between frames and get it wrong. Turning off all the corrective features is likely to make a better experience in Factorio.

Samsung Odyssey Neo GS49AG95 5120x1440 @ 240Hz with all the corrections turned off and not a symptom in sight. (None at 120Hz either.)

[PunCrathod]

Originally posted by Brug!:

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed and solved but when I zoom out to the max view and I then move (WASD) there is some sort of lightning/darkening effect, is there anyway to turn it off ?

In the past when this issue has come up it almost always ended up being a "feature" in the monitor. One time it was dynamic contrast, other time it was motion smoothing and I think there have been some other features as well which caused something like this. And a lot of times the person having the issue got mad that their "expensive" but not actually expensive monitor was "blamed" for it.

One time it was windows HDR being broken but that also affected more games than just factorio.

[Fel]

Originally posted by Chindraba:

Originally posted by Fel:

Just to sort out the more obvious case(s) first, is your screen perhaps running at 144Hz or something similar?
The game is capped at 60 FPS (mostly due to how animations work with 2D sprites) so screens with a much higher refresh rate that is also not a multiple of it can end up giving some not-so-great results.

Higher quality screens tend to have things to counter it automatically but for the rest you usually have to set the refresh rate to 60 yourself.

Actually it is more likely to be because of the better quality monitor. Those 'tools' built in to them tend to do more harm than good in this game. The 'intelligent' aspects of the monitor attempt to fill the gap between frames and get it wrong. Turning off all the corrective features is likely to make a better experience in Factorio.

Samsung Odyssey Neo GS49AG95 5120x1440 @ 240Hz with all the corrections turned off and not a symptom in sight. (None at 120Hz either.)

It depends on the monitor I guess then, I am also specifically talking about proper monitors, not TV screens used as monitors (those do come with a range of "functions" that are really bad when used with a computer and often not helpful with games in general).

I know some have a system that just adapts the refresh rate to the FPS (on full screen only usually), not sure if it's g-sync or something else though, but it seems to solve these issues.

[Entropy]

That happens randomly to me after a while. If you have g-sync high refresh rate monitor, in nvidia control panel, go to "program settings", choose factorio, set "monitor technology" to "fixed refresh" , "preferred refresh rate" to "application controlled" and set "max frame rate" to "60" and in game uncheck"v-sync".

[königplatzen]

My monitor flashes a bit, when I have a too aggressive overdrive, esp. on 60 FPS

[Chindraba]

Originally posted by Fel:

It depends on the monitor I guess then, I am also specifically talking about proper monitors, not TV screens used as monitors (those do come with a range of "functions" that are really bad when used with a computer and often not helpful with games in general).

I know some have a system that just adapts the refresh rate to the FPS (on full screen only usually), not sure if it's g-sync or something else though, but it seems to solve these issues.

Yea, using a TV, of any quality, instead of a monitor hasn't been a good idea since the VIC-20 hit the market. Didn't work very well before the PC was invented and hasn't gotten any better. (With a good sound system, however, monitors are great for watching TV-related material, if you have an independent tuner somehow, like a cable or sat set-top-box.)

Still, some of the features many TVs use to 'fix' low frame-rate movies and for up-scaling the images have found their way into the higher-end (and getting lower-end at a steady rate) gaming monitors. For many action games they, reported, work well. FPS being one of the places where those things work really well. Factorio, however, is not one of the places where those features have a benefit, and often cause 'issues' for being over-reactive when no reaction is needed.

Different brands have different names for the same thing, as well as what I think are their own versions of "special" tricks. As I don't use the games where it's needed I have all that turned off on my monitors and go with the native signal from the GPU. Yet to have any of the issues reported by others*.

*There was one case where "space" had lines, but that was an issue with the game, not the video system, monitor or otherwise.

PC -> TV === BAD!!

[Januki]

Originally posted by Chastity Belt Enjoyer:

That happens randomly to me after a while. If you have g-sync high refresh rate monitor, in nvidia control panel, go to "program settings", choose factorio, set "monitor technology" to "fixed refresh" , "preferred refresh rate" to "application controlled" and set "max frame rate" to "60" and in game uncheck"v-sync".

This Worked ! Thanks Chastity.