robots

[Lord Strong]

why is it seem to take longer to produce robots to construct stuff than if i manually built everything? am i missing a key point? seems take longer with robot or i just dont understand this game.

[PunCrathod]

Bots are slower yes. But bots are many while you are only one. When you have a thousand bots and you want to build a smelter array that has a thousand objects the bots are going to be done when you are still putting down the first row.

[Lord Strong]

seems nothing really speeds this game up. either build up all the robots or manually build and automate stuff needed. only time saver i see in this game is automation can keep going even if away from computer.

[Lord Strong]

is fun game though.

[Fel]

The game is all about giving you tools and letting you decide how to use them (or not).
Construction robots allow you to build whole parts of a factory in a fraction of the time it would take you, even if you are on the other side of the map, which is very helpful once your factory reaches a certain size.

You can also use them near your defenses to repair what gets damaged by attacks or replace what gets destroyed.

In conjunction with a power armour, you get your own small army of construction robot that drastically speeds up your operations, especially the more tedious ones like removing a forest or building the same train stop style for the 20th time at your newest mining outpost.


If something is slow, it can probably be scaled up several times until it's fast enough, it's true for mining, smelting, production, logistics, research, building (through robots) or combat.

[knighttemplar1960]

Don't forget to research the robot speed improvements and the robot cargo capacity improvements.

[Jan]

It may seem so for a new player but here is an easy example: You build one layout by hand and make a modular blueprint (for example a smelter for 1 belt iron or a layout for 1 belt green circuits).
When you need more you just copy and paste this blueprint 10 times and you are done, the robots will do everything. You can do other things like getting the ressources for the new build.
And you can upgrade the bots to be better and faster.
Making good blueprints is the key the use bots correctly.
When you decide to go to the megabase scale contruction robots are absolutely necessary. But even in the early and midgame stage robots will help you a lot.

[Lord Strong]

do other players feel the need of construction robots is more needed than logistics robots. cause almost everything is made in assembly plants. the only time we really need to hand craft is those first few smelters before getting everything automated. those first few smelters go obsolete pretty quickly too.

[jagholin]

Wat are you talking about
Logistic and construction bots have different roles, there isn't really such a thing as "one more needed than the other". You can build bases that use only logistic bots or only belts for transport, but it's probably optimal to use both. Without construction bots you would need to place all the stuff by hand, and blueprints become less useful without them. Whether or not you handcraft stuff is irrelevant here.

[Lord Strong]

whatever

[Lord Strong]

if you get logistics bots you can have them supply your character with materials so he can hand craft. i wasnt thinking about passive providers and requester chests. im not even got logistics network researched yet. im still on early game play optimizing how i want to go about building my starter base. I haven't had time to optimize a mega base or begin to come up with my own plans yet. problem i have with this game is i want to play and get to point everything looks right to me and gets that special feel to get me thinking now i got this game where I wanted. Im still learner ♥♥♥♥ daily.

[astrosha]

Bots are very useful things. Automate their construction just like anything else, and they will, en masse, be able to hand deliver stuff to other machines, even build those other machines, far faster than you could.

It just takes a little bit of effort to be lazy, that's all.

[Lord Strong]

it seems I need construction robots prior to researching logistics network. then once i got logistics network I can go hog wild with logistics and tweak it every which way to get robots to do amazing things. even possibly look pretty or special.

[Lord Strong]

what this thread is all about is it takes a lot of effort to get bots to do a lot more than what i can do on my own. transitioning from hand crafting to automating and bot network is what im trying to learn.

[Nonotorious]

I wouldn't say it takes a lot of effort, its just that you need yellow science for requester chests. Once you have requester chests its quite easy to build a small mall or bot making facility that feeds into a droneport that will automatically regulate the amount of bots you have.
Personally i build my electric engine factory right next to the refinery so i don't need to run belts and pipes all over the place and as the engines are made the amount of bots increases. After a few hours i will have hundreds of bots while i work on other things.

[Fel]

Originally posted by Lord Strong:

what this thread is all about is it takes a lot of effort to get bots to do a lot more than what i can do on my own. transitioning from hand crafting to automating and bot network is what im trying to learn.

Your issue is that like most newer players you rely strongly on hand crafting.

A good way to get a better understanding on how to properly automate everything is to attempt the "lazy bastard" achievement, which is basically "how few things can you craft by hand and still launch the rocket?"

I'm not saying that hand crafting is always bad but when you get used to automating everything you find yourself with significantly less time spent waiting until things finished crafting in your hand's queue and the progress becomes way smoother.
Construction robots are just an extention of that and once you get used to copy/paste, upgrade planner, deconstruction planner and making your own blueprints they will be an integral part of your toolbox as well.