Hard copy factorio

[fabfab]

Hi
Could u release factorio as a hard copy so we can own the game ourselves.?
If steam ever decides to quit we will loose our games.

[Khaylain]

Go to factorio.com and get the standalone/zip versions from there. Requires that you prove you own it and have an account there (uses Steam to verify you own it if you didn't already buy it through their site)

EDIT: Not to mention that you don't need Steam to run the Steam version of Factorio anyway

[dragonsphotoworks]

As already mentioned. Get the file then just put it on a USB stick.

Also I doubt steam ever just quit. Way too much money in it. More likely sold then closed. Unless another company makes comparable platform that is a lot better...

[GAMING_Alligator]

If steam ever decides to quit we will loose our games

While I appreciate your sentiments, this is pretty low on the list of things worth seriously worrying about happening within a meaningful time-frame.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by GAMING_Alligator:

If steam ever decides to quit we will loose our games

Yeah, while I appreciate your sentiments, in terms of risk factor, this is pretty low on the list of things that are ever likely to happen.

Games being dropped from it on other hand.. different story. Ive lost 3 to 5 games so far. As bot all available from the devs/distributor them selves.

[GAMING_Alligator]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

Originally posted by GAMING_Alligator:

Yeah, while I appreciate your sentiments, in terms of risk factor, this is pretty low on the list of things that are ever likely to happen.

Games being dropped from it on other hand.. different story. Ive lost 3 to 5 games so far. As bot all available from the devs/distributor them selves.

That's a more legitimate concern, for sure. But even then, I believe a game actually being deactivated (as opposed to merely being removed from sale), is more of a risk with "live service" games?

But I accept that I might be being naive and this is indeed more common than I'm aware of, in which case I'm happy to be educated otherwise.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by GAMING_Alligator:

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

Games being dropped from it on other hand.. different story. Ive lost 3 to 5 games so far. As bot all available from the devs/distributor them selves.

That's a more legitimate concern, for sure. But even then, I believe a game actually being deactivated (as opposed to merely being removed from sale), is more of a risk with "live service" games?

But I accept that I might be being naive and this is indeed more common than I'm aware of, in which case I'm happy to be educated otherwise.

You mostly right. Its Live games like MMO's. But on couple of occasions I had a few nonLive or MMO games get removed. I forget which as would take a while going through my list as I dont think i "sorted" them for that. Just labeled abandoned.

Oh and I meant removed from steam. And with no other place to redown load them from. Unless go illegal way which I wont.

[schnappkatze]

Also remember: Physically owning a game might make you safe from Steam shutting down, but now you can actually lose the game by, well, losing the game. There are several games in my life that I once bought and cannot figure out where the CD or catridge went. Maybe it got lost when I moved, maybe a friend never gave it back, maybe it is in some forgotten box in the basement....

Nowadays I actually prefer owing everything digitally, if it means I don't have to worry about a physical entity anymore.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by schnappkatze:

Also remember: Physically owning a game might make you safe from Steam shutting down, but now you can actually lose the game by, well, losing the game. There are several games in my life that I once bought and cannot figure out where the CD or catridge went. Maybe it got lost when I moved, maybe a friend never gave it back, maybe it is in some forgotten box in the basement....

Nowadays I catually prefer owing everything digitally, if it means I don't have to worry about a physical entity anymore.

Good point. Though a hybrid is get game legally then upload it to private online storage. Also I remember forgetting KEY for some of my games and not being able to play them lol

"online storage only not virtual pc's"

[Morri]

Sorry to bump a bit of an old discussion; but you might want to take a look at www.gog.com if that's your worry. Unlike Steam and Epic who only give you the license to play the game; on GoG you'll actually own them and they supposedly cannot be taken away.

Not all games are on there, but I for one regret not finding about them sooner; as I'm oldschool from the time when you still physically owned a game on a disk, and I don't like the thought of the possibility of something I payed money for being taken away from me on the whim of a company.

[Chindraba]

Originally posted by Morri:

Sorry to bump a bit of an old discussion; but you might want to take a look at www.gog.com if that's your worry. Unlike Steam and Epic who only give you the license to play the game; on GoG you'll actually own them and they supposedly cannot be taken away.

Not all games are on there, but I for one regret not finding about them sooner; as I'm oldschool from the time when you still physically owned a game on a disk, and I don't like the thought of the possibility of something I payed money for being taken away from me on the whim of a company.

You might also want to look at WUBE's own site, www.factorio.com, where you can also get the game, and the expansion, with a full download option. You still will get a Steam key with it so it can be recognized by Steam. Of course, even with that key, the version you install from Steam has all the normal Steam/Valve risks. You still will have the WUBE download to install and tell Steam to fork off.

[GreenBeanN1]

Buy it (Factorio) from GOG and you have access to the game via GOG, Wube and Steam.

Other than that I prefer to have a digital copy of a game. Not that Steam or GOG will cease to exist but more to have the right version. Some games/developers tend to take the wrong road along the way. No problem. I have the right version of the installers stored offline and/or a backup somewhere safe in the cloud.

And most important I don't need programs/additional layers of software to run games.

[Salmon Snake]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

As already mentioned. Get the file then just put it on a USB stick.

Also I doubt steam ever just quit. Way too much money in it. More likely sold then closed. Unless another company makes comparable platform that is a lot better...

No one can afford to buy steam hahaha.

[Fletch]

Here's a list of de-listed games on Steam: https://delistedgames.com/all-delisted-steam-games/

So it is not unheard of that a game that used to be available on Steam is pulled for one reason or another. I agree with others to ensure you link your copy directly with Wube and download a copy from them if you are at all concerned about it.

When Steam delists a game, you still have your local copy (EDIT: I think? I dunno if it actively purges) -- but when you replace your PC, you will not be able to redownload the game from Steam on the new PC. If the game requires Steam to work (not in Factorio's case), then you are SOL.

I, personally, have purchased games on that de-listed list, and I am SOL because I don't have a local copy.

[Doc✪Hollywood]

Originally posted by Fletch:

Here's a list of de-listed games on Steam ...

Unreal Tournament 3 is also delisted, and yet you see me playing it every day on Steam.

Unlisted doesn't mean that you lose your game nor that it leaves your library.

Anyway, the whole thought to own a game for eternity is nuts. The lifespan of CDs and DVDs is limited, to begin with. OS and hardware are constantly changing and after a decade or two you need tools like "Dos Box" to keep it running. And then you discover that running a game on 640 x 480 on a 60" 5K screen is not looking that good, your memories become much better than the actual game experience, etc. etc. etc.

[Chindraba]

Originally posted by Gordon✪Gekko:

Originally posted by Fletch:

Here's a list of de-listed games on Steam ...

Unreal Tournament 3 is also delisted, and yet you see me playing it every day on Steam.

Unlisted doesn't mean that you lose your game nor that it leaves your library.

Anyway, the whole thought to own a game for eternity is nuts. The lifespan of CDs and DVDs is limited, to begin with. OS and hardware are constantly changing and after a decade or two you need tools like "Dos Box" to keep it running. And then you discover that running a game on 640 x 480 on a 60" 5K screen is not looking that good, your memories become much better than the actual game experience, etc. etc. etc.

That's not always true. When the graphics were (are) the primary source of entertainment it tends to be true more often than not. When the game, puzzle or whatever its draw is, is entertaining on its own this is less true. I sometimes still fire up my PS2 and enjoy a round of FF from earlier decades. Ones like FF I and FF II, or more modern ones like FF VII or Chrono Cross.
I am fortunate that my first computer game, while not available easily for local install, is still playable online. Advent[rickadams.org], commonly called Adventure, or 'Colossal Cave Adventure' for completeness.

There is value, for some, to be had with older games. Steam probably does not actively delete games from your computer very often. They can, and have, however. It's the risk, and the insurance against that risk, which make having a stand-alone copy/version when possible.

Steam, unfortunately, is not the only, or even worst, offender either. I gather Bethesda has been particularly aggressive in killing older games, sometimes introducing patches which lock the game, or limit it to special servers.

Having a 'hard copy' (a pointless term now) saved on the disk prevents any of the potential issues from being any concern. Not that it will happen, only that it can happen.