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kremlin Oct 22, 2024 @ 11:40am
"Elevated Rails is a completely new feature which is why it's Space age only"
Elevated Rails are actually an addition to a base game feature and Wube agrees to the extent that they broke it out as a standalone mod to be able to use them without Space Age.
They really should just be part of base 2.0.
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Fletch Oct 23, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Space Age DLC is really three mods: Quality, Elevated Rails, and Space Age. Nothing technically stopping Wube from selling the quality and elevated rails mods individually (as their own "mini" DLCs) -- however "Space Age mod" does require Quality and Elevated rails, so that part would be complicated.

I've seen other publishers sell DLC "packs" that include other (mini) DLCs, so that sales model isn't unheard of (on Steam):

Something like:
* Quality Mod: $10 DLC
* Elevated Rails Mod: $10 DLC
* Space Age Mod-Pack: $35 DLC (with appropriate discounts if already owning Quality and/or Elevated Rails)
unfunf22 Oct 25, 2024 @ 8:35am 
theoreticle its not space age only and i can proof this. the mod works fine with the base mod, you only need to change one line of code/text and it works just fine.
Simon Oct 25, 2024 @ 8:44am 
Obviously, it was an executive decision to keep it in space age to get people to buy it, normally if it was in it's own DLC people would've complained about such a fundamental feature being in a DLC (like some $5 DLC), but because the DLC is large enough it doesn't matter as much.
kremlin Oct 25, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by unfunf22:
theoreticle its not space age only and i can proof this. the mod works fine with the base mod, you only need to change one line of code/text and it works just fine.

you don't need to change anything just go to the mod manager and un-check space age and leave elevated rails checked.
Shurenai Oct 25, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by kremlin:
Originally posted by unfunf22:
theoreticle its not space age only and i can proof this. the mod works fine with the base mod, you only need to change one line of code/text and it works just fine.

you don't need to change anything just go to the mod manager and un-check space age and leave elevated rails checked.
This. Space age requires elevated rails and quality, not the other way around. You can run quality or elevated rails with the base game by just unchecking the space age mod specifically.
unfunf22 Oct 26, 2024 @ 6:52am 
i meant if you dont own the space age dlc and get the mod-folder elevated rails from a friend.
Khaylain Oct 26, 2024 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by unfunf22:
i meant if you dont own the space age dlc and get the mod-folder elevated rails from a friend.
I'm pretty sure the developers have said you need the .exe you can get when having bought Space Age to even enable the mods.
unfunf22 Oct 26, 2024 @ 6:54am 
thats why i said i can prof it.
Khaylain Oct 26, 2024 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by unfunf22:
thats why i said i can prof it.
What?
unfunf22 Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:07am 
sorry meant proof it that it works with the base mod without buying the dlc.
Khaylain Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by unfunf22:
sorry meant proof it that it works with the base mod without buying the dlc.
No, you have a different .exe if you have bought the expansion or not, from what the developers have said. Which is why people have to tell Steam to uninstall the expansion if they want to downgrade to 1.x versions through the betas tab.
But get someone who haven't bought the expansion to try to load the rails mod and see if it works and then report back. I'm assuming it won't work based on what the developers say. But would be interesting if it did work.

But if you have bought the expansion you've got the .exe required to load the rails mod, so just trying to play "vanilla" with your .exe is obviously going to work.
unfunf22 Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:56am 
nope you dont need the new space age dlc and the new exe. just base exe is enough the api is patched even for base just as is said i can proof it if you want.
Khaylain Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by unfunf22:
nope you dont need the new space age dlc and the new exe. just base exe is enough the api is patched even for base just as is said i can proof it if you want.
Yeah, prove it. Because https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-378 says otherwise.
All of the elevated rails will be only available with the expansion executable.
unfunf22 Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:22am 
sure no problem, where should i upload the video?
Chindraba Oct 26, 2024 @ 11:01am 
If you know what you're doing with coding it is possible you can 'fix' the non-DLC binary to load DLC content. WUBE has made it harder to pirate their content, but not impossible. Their time is better spent on doing game-related programming than turning into the Internet Police Force.

Unless you "patch" the .exe yourself, or make other modifications, placing a copy of the rails folder in the non-DLC game will give you a nice, non-threatening, error message.

Originally posted by Factorio 2.0:
Error loading mods

Failed to load mods: Mod elevated-rails requires Space Age expansion.

Mods to be disabled:
  • elevated-rails (2.0.11)

That don't mean it cannot be done. I can do it, and I could share a video as well. I don't do that because I don't need to - I paid for the expansion, just haven't registered the Steam key. Don't know if I will either.
Last edited by Chindraba; Oct 26, 2024 @ 11:01am
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Date Posted: Oct 22, 2024 @ 11:40am
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