2.0 changes

[GunRunner89X]

I've only been semi-following the 2.0 changes and Space Age. One thing I'm unsure of is when it comes to old tech being routed through new ways either in base 2.0 or Space Age. Spidertrons for example. I read that they're unlocked by travelling to one of the new planets. But say you don't have the Space Age DLC, is that kind of tech not available then, thereby unavailable in base game? I very much doubt Wube would do that, so I assume I'm adding 2 + 2 and coming out with 14.

As I said, I haven't been following much as I've been on a Factorio de-binge for the last year or so - too much of a good thing and all that. So I am completely ignorant to most of the changes. And I'm too old/tired to be going digging.

I'm on the fence about buying the new DLC as I've never been too much into space stuff, never used mods like it that so heavily modded the game either. That said it does look interesting, but I'll probably wait some time after release to get used to the 2.0 changes first.

Before I forget: TOO EXPENSIVE! REGIONAL PRICING UNFAIR! CRY CRY CRY!

*cough*

May have... digressed somewhat there... Anyway, any info would be helpful, thanks. I could also wait a few days and see but time is money and all that!

[jagholin]

Space Age is going to be a mod (well actually several mods, SA, elevated rails and quality) which you can switch on/off like any other mod. If you turn them all off(or don't buy the expansion), my understanding is that you will have the same recipes and techs as in vanilla 1.1, with added QoL improvements of 2.0.

[Galileus]

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

I've only been semi-following the 2.0 changes and Space Age. One thing I'm unsure of is when it comes to old tech being routed through new ways either in base 2.0 or Space Age. Spidertrons for example. I read that they're unlocked by travelling to one of the new planets. But say you don't have the Space Age DLC, is that kind of tech not available then, thereby unavailable in base game? I very much doubt Wube would do that, so I assume I'm adding 2 + 2 and coming out with 14.

Pretty much. Nothing gets removed from base game, the extra changes are for SA.

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

TOO EXPENSIVE! REGIONAL PRICING UNFAIR! CRY CRY CRY!

JOB PUPPET SHILL!
ACCOUNT!
PAID BY THE GRASS!
GET A SOCK!
TOUCH THE DEVELOPER!!!

... sorry, my notes got mixed up

[jagholin]

And QoL changes are all great, most of this stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdlrLETmSGc you will have for free (except elevated rails)

[baerra]

You won't be able to use your current rail blueprints either, but the rails you have placed will still function. I believe they mentioned that, in the future, old rails in pre-2.0 saves will actually flat out not work

[königplatzen]

Afaik, there will be an update 2.0 for the base game, too, which contains the basic changes, which are shared with the DLC. The vanilla game itself, regarding resources, base building and techs probably won't be much different to 1.1, but I would expect some changes regarding QoL, etc.
One example I can think of, is the rail curve radius, which changes:
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-377

[GunRunner89X]

Jesus christ monkeyballs. Is logistics train network basically in the game now?? You can give trains an interrupt condition to go to a dedicated fuel depot for when low on fuel????? Train groups???

LOGISTICS GROUPS?????

BETTER FLUID THROUGHOUT??????????

FORCE BUILDING???????????????

FACTORIOPEDIA????????????????????

SOOOOOOOOOO MANY OTHER QOL CHANGES?????????????????????????

ALL PART OF A FREE UPDATE WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY BUY THE NEW DLC??????????????????????????????

WUBE SOFTWARE ARE FRICKIN' LEGENDARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Galileus]

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

ALL PART OF A FREE UPDATE WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY BUY THE NEW DLC??????????????????????????????

Greedy dev. Won't make sale, because too greedy, even though would get more money through sale. And the free part is too small, it should all be free. And it needs to release when I decide it should. Also, streamers should be banned for playing the game.

[GunRunner89X]

Originally posted by Ass Blaster:

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

ALL PART OF A FREE UPDATE WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY BUY THE NEW DLC??????????????????????????????

Greedy dev. Won't make sale, because too greedy, even though would get more money through sale. And the free part is too small, it should all be free. And it needs to release when I decide it should. Also, streamers should be banned for playing the game.

Careful now. There are many sensitive little snowflakes who are offended by sarcasm! Poor wee pets.

[jagholin]

Originally posted by Ass Blaster:

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

ALL PART OF A FREE UPDATE WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY BUY THE NEW DLC??????????????????????????????

Greedy dev. Won't make sale, because too greedy, even though would get more money through sale. And the free part is too small, it should all be free. And it needs to release when I decide it should. Also, streamers should be banned for playing the game.

Not to mention that some other studios would look at the separate parts of the new update(quality, elevated rails), and would release them separately at 10$ each.

[brian_va]

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

Originally posted by Ass Blaster:

Greedy dev. Won't make sale, because too greedy, even though would get more money through sale. And the free part is too small, it should all be free. And it needs to release when I decide it should. Also, streamers should be banned for playing the game.

Careful now. There are many sensitive little snowflakes who are offended by sarcasm! Poor wee pets.

given the banned tag, seems some were.

[GunRunner89X]

Originally posted by brian_va:

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

Careful now. There are many sensitive little snowflakes who are offended by sarcasm! Poor wee pets.

given the banned tag, seems some were.

[brian_va]

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

Originally posted by brian_va:

given the banned tag, seems some were.

dont worry; im sure that ass will blast again soon enough

[GunRunner89X]

Originally posted by brian_va:

Originally posted by GunRunner89X:

dont worry; im sure that ass will blast again soon enough

Now that deserves a ban

[Nisk Philadelphia]

they should release a DLC demo, can't go off of botted reviews and maybe 1-2 trailer videos alone.
Youtubers "showcasing the DLC" (often paid by WUBE themselves) also doesn't help to see if you'd like it or not.

[ſɪʟʟʏ ſᴀᴅᴀſꜱ]

Originally posted by Nisk Philadelphia:

they should release a DLC demo, can't go off of botted reviews and maybe 1-2 trailer videos alone.
Youtubers "showcasing the DLC" (often paid by WUBE themselves) also doesn't help to see if you'd like it or not.

If your on the fence about the DLC just wait a few days after the release so you can just check the steam reviews. Nobody's forcing you to buy it as soon as it comes out.
A demo would be nice, but what would it even include? Earlygame Nauvis will be basically unchanged from the existing demo so it can't be that.