phantom asteroid chunks in circuit

[Ccrack]

so im using some combinators to set the recipe for my crushers. basically all they do is check if there is any asteroids of each type, if there is then they send a signal to the crusher

was working perfectly untill somehow they started counting phantom asteroids within the system that didnt exist anywhere in any of the inventories

does the grabber arm have some kind of buffer when its inventory is full? or did i just find a bug

[MrGergoth]

Crusher have chance 20% to get this asteroid back (check recipe), is it what you looking?

[Ccrack]

Originally posted by MrGergoth:

Crusher have chance 20% to get this asteroid back (check recipe), is it what you looking?

yeah i accounted for that. all outputs feed in to the hub which is also being checked for chunks, and theres an arm that places the chunks back in to the grinder when the recipie is available

issue is the system is giving signals for chunks that are not in any inventories

[Xelephant]

hard to tell what wrong without know how the circuit is hooked up, maybe drop a blueprint of your setup?

[Ccrack]

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[Ccrack]

that should have all the relevant parts. it was working just fine for a while but then it started getting phantom chunks showing up in the circuit input

the only input it should be getting is the content of the asteroid collecter, and the hub. no idea where or how the extra ones came from but im running the same setup on the other side of my ship and thats getting the same error too but with different numbers

[Xelephant]

well your curcuit is flawed in a way. if there is one chunk in your hub, your decider set the recepie. the inserter grabs it (removing it from the hub) the decider no longer set the recepies since there is no chunk in the hub. the chunk get put back in the hub. then start over.

i solved it by reading the hands content of the inserters as well:
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[Ccrack]

Originally posted by Xelephant:

well your curcuit is flawed in a way. if there is one chunk in your hub, your decider set the recepie. the inserter grabs it (removing it from the hub) the decider no longer set the recepies since there is no chunk in the hub. the chunk get put back in the hub. then start over.

yeah i noticed it doing that when theres very few chunks left, but it didnt seem to do anything about the phantom chunks

my only guess is that the circuit is ticking too fast and its not deleting the value for some reason

i saw someone mention using the new decider combinator to select recipies so i might give that a try to see if it slows down the signals and stopping it from spazzing

[Ccrack]

allright i think iv figured out whats going on

it seems like the asteroid collectors can hold items in their hands while the inventory is full, and it causes the item to be read in the circuit network while also not being visible in any inventory.
manually setting the crusher to carbon asteroids to clear up some space while the grabber arm was turned off caused the sudden appearance of an iron asteroid that wasnt visible before

iv limited some spaces inside the collector to see if that prevents it from happening. weird that iv not seen anyone else mention this issue unless im literally the only person poor enough in the galaxy to need a single crusher to perform all the work

[Chindraba]

Originally posted by Ccrack:

allright i think iv figured out whats going on

it seems like the asteroid collectors can hold items in their hands while the inventory is full, and it causes the item to be read in the circuit network while also not being visible in any inventory.
manually setting the crusher to carbon asteroids to clear up some space while the grabber arm was turned off caused the sudden appearance of an iron asteroid that wasnt visible before

iv limited some spaces inside the collector to see if that prevents it from happening. weird that iv not seen anyone else mention this issue unless im literally the only person poor enough in the galaxy to need a single crusher to perform all the work

It might be that you're the only one in the galaxy brave enough to use a single crusher to perform all the work. Most players tend to either "go big of stay home".

Edit: as evidence consider the Lazy bastard achievement. It has got to be one of the easiest non-automatic badges in the game. You literally have to do the minimum work to get it. Yet it's not even in the top 50% of earned achievements.