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Behemot Nov 7, 2024 @ 3:04am
Space Age on 7?
Just checked requirements and states only runs on that 10+ garbage. How much incompatible with 7 it actually is? Could it be solved by for example VxKex (like some other games) by a chance?
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GAMING_Alligator Nov 7, 2024 @ 3:16am 
Man, it's great you're keeping that torch burning, but even extended support for Windows 7 ended over a year ago. However much I love it, that operating system is obsolete.

I mean, Space Age is packaged in the form of mods, so it'll "probably" work? Can't see why it wouldn't.
Last edited by GAMING_Alligator; Nov 7, 2024 @ 3:19am
Pr0wn Nov 7, 2024 @ 3:28am 
Shouldn’t the free demo allow you to see how compatible it is?
Behemot Nov 7, 2024 @ 3:51am 
I've no idea there even is a demo. Just literally poked it on me when I opened me game repository so I checked the requirements, checked forums, did some searching, no information anywhere, so went ahead to ask at the source :o)
Nico Nov 7, 2024 @ 4:59am 
But if you already asked at the source, why did you also ask in here?

Win 7 is no longer supported, so there is no reason why any new game should support it, as it would be a serious security threat. But just because it's no longer suported doesn't mean you can't use it. But you just can't be sure that it will work without any issues.
Scipione Nov 7, 2024 @ 5:30am 
no one tests if something works on an obsolete operating system
so you either "test it" or stop gaming, or do you really expect ppl to check compatibility of an long obsolete and gone OS?
Vyndicu Nov 7, 2024 @ 6:30am 
If you don't want to use Windows 10 or later version.

Might I be so bold as to suggest switching to Linux OS? Factorio runs natively on Linux, and Steam may need some wangling to get working on Linux, but it is not hard to find tutorials on how to do it.


There are Linux OS distros that are made to look familiar to people who are used to 'Windows' OS UI.

Here are a few to start with:

Window 7 UIs
Winux 7
Zorin OS 8

Window UI like but not with 7 UI
Linux Lite
Lubuntu
Linux Mint
Peppermint OS
Debian
Pop OS


Do some research and find one that works for you.
sliva 11 Nov 7, 2024 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Vyndicu:
If you don't want to use Windows 10 or later version.

Might I be so bold as to suggest switching to Linux OS? Factorio runs natively on Linux, and Steam may need some wangling to get working on Linux, but it is not hard to find tutorials on how to do it.


There are Linux OS distros that are made to look familiar to people who are used to 'Windows' OS UI.

Here are a few to start with:

Window 7 UIs
Winux 7
Zorin OS 8

Window UI like but not with 7 UI
Linux Lite
Lubuntu
Linux Mint
Peppermint OS
Debian
Pop OS


Do some research and find one that works for you.
It is not a direct substituion to windows 7. I think dual boot is the way here, probably overkill for a video game, but at least it is "supported"
GAMING_Alligator Nov 7, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by sliva 11:
Originally posted by Vyndicu:
If you don't want to use Windows 10 or later version.

Might I be so bold as to suggest switching to Linux OS? Factorio runs natively on Linux, and Steam may need some wangling to get working on Linux, but it is not hard to find tutorials on how to do it.


There are Linux OS distros that are made to look familiar to people who are used to 'Windows' OS UI.

Here are a few to start with:

Window 7 UIs
Winux 7
Zorin OS 8

Window UI like but not with 7 UI
Linux Lite
Lubuntu
Linux Mint
Peppermint OS
Debian
Pop OS


Do some research and find one that works for you.
It is not a direct substituion to windows 7. I think dual boot is the way here, probably overkill for a video game, but at least it is "supported"

I mean at the risk of getting all technical, if you're just going to use it for Factorio, you could probably just download the free version of VM Ware and use it to run a barebones Linux distro. Don't even need to dual boot if you can get that work.
Last edited by GAMING_Alligator; Nov 7, 2024 @ 7:46am
Vyndicu Nov 7, 2024 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by sliva 11:
It is not a direct substituion to windows 7. I think dual boot is the way here, probably overkill for a video game, but at least it is "supported"

I have experience with dual OS boot. To put it lightly, the experience was awful.


A specific Windows patch broke my dual setup while also making the troubleshooting process too tedious (30 to 45 minutes of continuous reading on the hard drive to just power on to the Windows logo screen saver/login).

I contacted Windows Customer Support, and they think it was a hard drive failure. Unironically, the supposed 'broken' hard drive still runs fine.

The "patch" didn't play nice with the dual OS manager, and Windows CS couldn't figure it out.


I ultimately decided that letting Windows have boot-up access to the dual OS manager was more trouble than it was worth.

The irony is that I started to look into using Linux OS to avoid Windows breaking my game PC. I installed a dual OS outside of Windows OS, and Windows still finds a way to make my life 'interesting' but not in a good way.


The story's moral is completely replacing your existing Windows OS with Linux OS >>> dual OS.
königplatzen Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by Vyndicu:
Originally posted by sliva 11:
It is not a direct substituion to windows 7. I think dual boot is the way here, probably overkill for a video game, but at least it is "supported"

I have experience with dual OS boot. To put it lightly, the experience was awful.


A specific Windows patch broke my dual setup while also making the troubleshooting process too tedious (30 to 45 minutes of continuous reading on the hard drive to just power on to the Windows logo screen saver/login).

I contacted Windows Customer Support, and they think it was a hard drive failure. Unironically, the supposed 'broken' hard drive still runs fine.

The "patch" didn't play nice with the dual OS manager, and Windows CS couldn't figure it out.


I ultimately decided that letting Windows have boot-up access to the dual OS manager was more trouble than it was worth.

The irony is that I started to look into using Linux OS to avoid Windows breaking my game PC. I installed a dual OS outside of Windows OS, and Windows still finds a way to make my life 'interesting' but not in a good way.


The story's moral is completely replacing your existing Windows OS with Linux OS >>> dual OS.
You usually boot up a live Linux via USB and reapply the boot manager (grub or whatever.)

To the topic. Maybe someone tried to used the standalone version of Factorio on Win7 to start the game? I could imagine it works, if no super modern libraries are used.
You probably even can start the demo exe directly from the steam installation. Afaik, factorio doesn't use Steam DRM
luziferius Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:24am 
The demo is still uses the old 1.1 engine. That wont help.

Edit: I've started the download for the Windows portable ZIP of Space Age from the Wube website. I'll check in my Windows 7 VM.
Last edited by luziferius; Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:29am
slothrop Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:31am 
You should not be running Windows 7 in 2024.
Vyndicu Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by königplatzen:
You usually boot up a live Linux via USB and reapply the boot manager (grub or whatever.)

Right.


I had it set up in the motherboard BIOS to point to the Dual OS manager, which then defaults to start up Windows OS.

Both the Dual OS manager and the Linux OS live on the same internal hard drive (not USB thumb disks) as I wanted a more permanent solution in case Windows breaks again, and I can then go to the Dual OS manager and switch over to Linux as a "break-the-glass" backup.

The Windows OS is installed on a different internal hard drive.


My best guess as to what happened?

When Windows OS boots up with the 'affected' patch installed, that has code that runs at boot-up, and the Linux/Dual-OS bootup internal hard drive is visible to Windows OS.

The affected code sees the Linux-file-system and the bootup manager together. Then, that same code freaks out while scanning the various hard drives. Then it stalls entirely and won't stop running or time-out until somewhere between 30 and 45 minutes have passed.

Essentially, the computer was "hitting" the hard drive with read requests and slowly degrading the hardware inside of that hard drive.


When I uninstall the 'affected' patch, it immediately becomes available as an essential update. I can only push that a few weeks before being forced-installed at some point in the future. But the Windows OS boots up without any issue without the 'patch' installed.

When I point the dual OS manager to start Linux up. No problem.

I let Windows install the patch and remove the hard drive with Linux and the dual OS manager from the desktop—the Windows OS boots up without any issues.


I didn't have much choice in how to fix the Windows 'patches' issue, and I got a second computer device that runs only Linux or WINE (Emulate Windows code on Linux) because of the above.

In the distant future, when Windows 11 OS reaches the end of support. I do not plan to get the next Windows OS.
königplatzen Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Vyndicu:
Originally posted by königplatzen:
You usually boot up a live Linux via USB and reapply the boot manager (grub or whatever.)

Right.


I had it set up in the motherboard BIOS to point to the Dual OS manager, which then defaults to start up Windows OS.

Both the Dual OS manager and the Linux OS live on the same internal hard drive (not USB thumb disks) as I wanted a more permanent solution in case Windows breaks again, and I can then go to the Dual OS manager and switch over to Linux as a "break-the-glass" backup.

The Windows OS is installed on a different internal hard drive.


My best guess as to what happened?

When Windows OS boots up with the 'affected' patch installed, that has code that runs at boot-up, and the Linux/Dual-OS bootup internal hard drive is visible to Windows OS.

The affected code sees the Linux-file-system and the bootup manager together. Then, that same code freaks out while scanning the various hard drives. Then it stalls entirely and won't stop running or time-out until somewhere between 30 and 45 minutes have passed.

Essentially, the computer was "hitting" the hard drive with read requests and slowly degrading the hardware inside of that hard drive.


When I uninstall the 'affected' patch, it immediately becomes available as an essential update. I can only push that a few weeks before being forced-installed at some point in the future. But the Windows OS boots up without any issue without the 'patch' installed.

When I point the dual OS manager to start Linux up. No problem.

I let Windows install the patch and remove the hard drive with Linux and the dual OS manager from the desktop—the Windows OS boots up without any issues.


I didn't have much choice in how to fix the Windows 'patches' issue, and I got a second computer device that runs only Linux or WINE (Emulate Windows code on Linux) because of the above.

In the distant future, when Windows 11 OS reaches the end of support. I do not plan to get the next Windows OS.
Sounds awful.
I only did dual boot with Windows 10 so far. No interest in Windows 11, because I would have to enable TPM
Windows 11 is probably a b**ch and wants to avoid dual boot
I use Linux mainly nowadays, Windows 10 in a VMPlayer. I boot up Win 10 almost never.
Chindraba Nov 7, 2024 @ 9:23am 
The biggest issue I can think of with running Factorio on older OS versions would be the DirectX libraries. Factorio in Win wants DirectX 11 and I'm not sure that Win 7 can handle that.

What I'd be more worried about is the rest of the hardware. Running Win 7 suggests it's also older, much older, hardware and the CPU/RAM is rather important for maps even large enough to enjoy launching a rocket in 1.1. (Steam Deck is barely in the range of workable.) If the hardware is too far below expectations the experience might be more like a slideshow than a game.
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