Is the price going to go up again with Release 2.0 ?

[Kaathe]

I've played the demo, really enjoying this game but i am hoping it goes on sale...

From what I have read, the price has more chance of increasing than going on any sale.

[Galileus]

Technically speakling, 0.01% is a higher chance than 0.001%.

The game's price increased once since release, and both events are one-in-a-billion chance to happen.

[desertpunk3912]

Game is almost 4 years old. It's never been discounted, not even once. Check this post for details. https://steamcommunity.com/app/427520/discussions/0/2592234299545022370/

[Wilson]

Originally posted by Guardian Kaathe:

I've played the demo, really enjoying this game but i am hoping it goes on sale...

From what I have read, the price has more chance of increasing than going on any sale.

they never go on sale, just buy minedustry

[Kaathe]

Originally posted by desertpunk3912:

Game is almost 4 years old. It's never been discounted, not even once. Check this post for details. https://steamcommunity.com/app/427520/discussions/0/2592234299545022370/

According to this, it was cheaper previously

https://steamdb.info/app/427520/

[malogoss]

Originally posted by Guardian Kaathe:

According to this, it was cheaper previously

https://steamdb.info/app/427520/

It was cheaper, yes.
It never has been discounted.

How could that be possible, Sherlock? Think for a minute.

Hint: The info from posts #1 and #3.

[Weruat]

The game will never go on sale. And the devs would announce something prior to changing price, which is extremely unlikely. You are safe to buy it if you want at any point as the price is highly unlikely to get cheaper.

[Kaathe]

Originally posted by Weruat:

The game will never go on sale. And the devs would announce something prior to changing price, which is extremely unlikely. You are safe to buy it if you want at any point as the price is highly unlikely to get cheaper.

I don't understand the logic behind it. Sales are not a bad thing for a game.

[Fel]

Originally posted by Guardian Kaathe:

I don't understand the logic behind it. Sales are not a bad thing for a game.

The logic is simple, you can buy any time instead of at specific times (or spending way more outside of those times).

If you never buy anything outside of a sale then give up on the game, otherwise you can purchase it whenever you feel like it.

[Hurkyl]

Originally posted by Guardian Kaathe:

I don't understand the logic behind it. Sales are not a bad thing for a game.

They're bad for consumers.

More people buy a product when it's priced at "$60 but on sale every couple months for 50% off" than they are "$30 all day every day".

So not only is it more inconvenient/costly for customers, a lot of people get manipulated into being freer at spending their money.

So the marketing departments of big companies do this, and others follow suit. Steam even explicitly recommends to publishers to plan for what you want the sale price to be when you set a list price and gives companies a major reward for participating in sales, in the form of promoting the game for you.

Not all sales are purely formal like this, but this is the norm in the game industry. The sale does not represent a discount from what the company wanted to sell their game for. The sale price is the price they wanted to sell the game to you at. (of course, they're happy to take your money if you want to pay way extra outside of the sales period)

Steam sales are not the old school "We ordered too many copies of this game and the hype has waned, so we're having a clearance sale to clear out our remaining inventory and try to get some more money out of our investment before we have to dispose of it" that you saw back when you got games through physical copies sold in IRL stores.

[Kaathe]

Originally posted by Hurkyl:

Originally posted by Guardian Kaathe:

I don't understand the logic behind it. Sales are not a bad thing for a game.

They're bad for consumers.

More people buy a product when it's priced at "$60 but on sale every couple months for 50% off" than they are "$30 all day every day".

So not only is it more inconvenient/costly for customers, a lot of people get manipulated into being freer at spending their money.

So the marketing departments of big companies do this, and others follow suit. Steam even explicitly recommends to publishers to plan for what you want the sale price to be when you set a list price and gives companies a major reward for participating in sales, in the form of promoting the game for you.

Not all sales are purely formal like this, but this is the norm in the game industry. The sale does not represent a discount from what the company wanted to sell their game for. The sale price is the price they wanted to sell the game to you at. (of course, they're happy to take your money too if you want to pay way extra outside of the sales period)

Steam sales are not the old school "We ordered too many copies of this game and the hype has waned, so we're having a clearance sale to clear out our remaining inventory and try to get some more money out of our investment before we have to dispose of it" that you saw back when you got games through physical copies sold in IRL stores.

I'm a big fan of subscription services like GamePass... As a customer I only care about where I get the best deal.

I'll wait for a sale. Highly doubt they don't have one when their first dlc drops. It's a standard practice to reduce price of the base game when a major expansion hits

[Khaylain]

Well, too bad for you, since the no sale policy has been stated is an ethical stance they have, and if they switch that then nothing they say can be taken seriously again. So the probability of a sale on Factorio is extremely small, bordering on non-existent.

It's also standard practice to have sales at regular intervals after all, and they haven't done that either.

[Hurkyl]

Originally posted by Guardian Kaathe:

I'm a big fan of subscription services like GamePass... As a customer I only care about where I get the best deal.

If you are getting your money's worth out of the subscription service, then good for you. For what it's worth, Humble offers a rebate on Factorio with their subscription service, although I don't really know how that works.

I'll wait for a sale. Highly doubt they don't have one when their first dlc drops. It's a standard practice to reduce price of the base game when a major expansion hits

IMO, it's far, far, more likely Wube would just reduce the base price of the game than they would start putting it on sale.

[pat]

Originally posted by desertpunk3912:

Game is almost 4 years old.

Well, it's a lot older than that. It came out of early access four years ago.

[Galileus]

Originally posted by pat:

Originally posted by desertpunk3912:

Game is almost 4 years old.

Well, it's a lot older than that. It came out of early access four years ago.

And Kovarex was born even earlier, who could know for sure what age did he start imagining Factorio at? For the sake of completeness, I say we assume Factorio is 100 years old.

Jokes aside, we count release date as start date because that's the only reliable date we can go on. Otherwise, what is the start date? Early Access? Open test versions? First notepad file with ideas about the game? First time the name was mentioned? Birthdate of the author? Which one? None of those dates are useful at all.

We also don't date cars on their first prototype nor movies on the date they started filming.

To be honest, Factorio is the only product around which I saw the fascination about "let's date it more than it is!". And usually it's followed by "so, sale when?"

[Fel]

I date a game to when a normal player can start to play it (purchasing it and/or downloading it depending on the title).
Not demos, not pre-orders, but early access and out-of-steam during development count as far as I am concerned.