Space Age will be a DLC ?

[Jake4159]

*The new rails are coming as a free update to Factorio 2.0 even without Space Age.*

*free* and *even without Space Age* sure does not sound like it will be free.

[Lfod]

引用自 Jake4159：

Has long as this does not become Rimworld or a few very old games from the same time where features that should be free become paid.

You can check my profile, you will see I got tons of hours on factorio. I simply hate it when games bring out dlcs with stuff that should be in the main game. For Rimworld, childrens should had not been locked behind a DLC. Feels like it should be a base feature.

I do get it, economic times are hard, but if you go full greed, it thends to kill you.

Developers are not really obligated to continue to create content for a game. It's nice when it happens. The opinion on the price of the DLC would depend on how much content is packed into the DLC. Rimworlds first few DLCs felt a little light to me and I never ended up buying the last DLC.

I don't think it's wrong for this developer to put a bunch of time into an expansion and then decide to charge for it. You are not going to continue working a job if they won't pay you again just because they paid you once.

Once the DLC dropped I am sure people will have an opinion on how good it is and if it's worth the price but that doesn't automatically make a developer greedy because they put a lot of work into making more content and want to make money for that work.

[kathorsees]

Newsflash: game devs need to eat too, and so do their families :) You don't expect a barber to keep cutting your hair for years after you've paid him once, right? Every time a baker makes a new loaf of bread, he charges for it. Same logic here - programmers write new code, artists make new art, game designers come up with new stuff... Their time and labor need to be rewarded.
We've gotten literal years of support and new content for 20 bucks or so - I think it's only fair to pay for the next loaf of bread Kovarex and co have in the oven for us.

[astrosha]

引用自 Jake4159：

*The new rails are coming as a free update to Factorio 2.0 even without Space Age.*

*free* and *even without Space Age* sure does not sound like it will be free.

Considering I cannot find the game, not on Amazon, nor at any physical store, as a physical copy, *the base game is downloadable content*. Stands to reason that the expansion would be, too, does it not?

EVERYTHING you buy on Steam, GoG, Epic Store, Apple store, Android Store, etc. to download is all "Downloaded Content". Makes the term "DLC" kind of meaningless with its near universal applicability, no?

[Vixx]

Why would they work on the expansion for years and then give it away for free? Grow up people, the devs deserve to get paid for their work.

[Drust]

引用自 Psycho：

引用自 Jake4159：

Also, business 101, customer is always right.

this has never been the case...

It's hilarious how this thread has been flooded by a bunch of largely off-topic, disgruntled customer service workers. I hate my job too, but pppfftttt stop whining, that goes for the OP. The customer service rep isn't entitled to behave in a haughty/rude manner because the customer is "wrong" (Which is the WHOLE POINT of the saying**), nor is the OP entitled to a free expansion. That's enough folks, many of you (not all) are looking like entitled little children.

Edit: **The reason why you should never actually think that the customer is "wrong" is because the customer can often tell when your behavior changes as a result. Ultimately it doesn't matter what YOU think as a customer rep as long as you have made a sale and/or have not compromised a contract. This is not intended as a new thread of discussion, just a note about business school basics for those of you who missed that day.

[brian_va]

looks like the supervisor showed up, back to work everyone

[Psycho]

引用自 Drust：

引用自 Psycho：

this has never been the case...

It's hilarious how this thread has been flooded by a bunch of largely off-topic, disgruntled customer service workers. I hate my job too, but pppfftttt stop whining, that goes for the OP. The customer service rep isn't entitled to behave in a haughty/rude manner because the customer is "wrong" (Which is the WHOLE POINT of the saying**), nor is the OP entitled to a free expansion. That's enough folks, many of you (not all) are looking like entitled little children.

Edit: **The reason why you should never actually think that the customer is "wrong" is because the customer can often tell when your behavior changes as a result. Ultimately it doesn't matter what YOU think as a customer rep as long as you have made a sale and/or have not compromised a contract. This is not intended as a new thread of discussion, just a note about business school basics for those of you who missed that day.

I didnt say the customer is wrong, I said "customer is always right" has never been the case.
jake4159 is a customer and he is clearly proving that he is wrong.
he is believing a 2016 released game that added a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of free content over the years must add "features that should be free" or "should be in the main game" for free.

He doesnt even know that the space exploration mod is from the same person who works for Wube on the space age expansion (Earendel) and thinks wube is "sorta making money from someone else idea"

This is not intended as a new thread of discussion, just a note about basic game design and basic logic for those of you who missed classes entirely.

[Akenny]

引用自 Jake4159：

What I dont understand is why make a space DLC when theres the Space exploration mod?

Isn't it sorta making money from someone else idea?

There used to be a mod for childrens in Rimworld, but when the DLC that has children came out, how funny, the mod breaks.

im pretty sure the mod developer from space exploration has had a helping hand in the expansion if i remember the FFF post correctly, also for rimworld biotech changed alot of the code of the base game to allow the dlc to be made so its no wonder that a mod that is built ontop of that code would break in turn, mod developers expect this kind of stuff

[GunRunner89X]

引用自 Jake4159：

Also, business 101, customer is always right.

Yeah, no.... CLEARLY you've never worked retail.