Space Age will be a DLC ?

[Jake4159]

*The new rails are coming as a free update to Factorio 2.0 even without Space Age.*

*free* and *even without Space Age* sure does not sound like it will be free.

[kremlin]

They announced at the very beginning that the expansion would cost as much as the base game.

[Jake4159]

Ouch.

[Jake4159]

Has long as this does not become Rimworld or a few very old games from the same time where features that should be free become paid.

You can check my profile, you will see I got tons of hours on factorio. I simply hate it when games bring out dlcs with stuff that should be in the main game. For Rimworld, childrens should had not been locked behind a DLC. Feels like it should be a base feature.

I do get it, economic times are hard, but if you go full greed, it thends to kill you.

[Biometrix]

Originally posted by Jake4159:

Has long as this does not become Rimworld or a few very old games from the same time where features that should be free become paid.

You can check my profile, you will see I got tons of hours on factorio. I simply hate it when games bring out dlcs with stuff that should be in the main game. For Rimworld, childrens should had not been locked behind a DLC. Feels like it should be a base feature.

I do get it, economic times are hard, but if you go full greed, it thends to kill you.

We've known this for a year to two years now, that the expansion will be around the price of the base game.

It will also have about the same amount of content as the base game. Not everything in the 2.0 update is locked to Space Age, as you've clearly demonstrated that you've seen.

[DaBa]

"Free update" obviously refers to the 2.0 update. "Space Age" refers to the DLC, which will obviously not be free. Rails are being added in the "free update", hence they are not exclusive to the DLC and everybody will have access to them.

What's there not to understand? Also, why would the expectation even be that the expansion content was going to be FREE? What do you mean "stuff that should be in the main game"? Space age will be brand new content, not something that is "supposed to be in the base game"...

[Jake4159]

What I dont understand is why make a space DLC when theres the Space exploration mod?

Isn't it sorta making money from someone else idea?

There used to be a mod for childrens in Rimworld, but when the DLC that has children came out, how funny, the mod breaks.

[DaBa]

Originally posted by Jake4159:

What I dont understand is why make a space DLC when theres the Space exploration mod?

How about, instead coming here completely ignorant on the subject, not knowing anything about the DLC, what's going to be in it and why is it similar subject matter to Space Exploration mod, just go and read the blog posts about the DLC thus far... I guarantee most, if not all the questions you're asking here will be answered and this discussion will not be necessary.

And if you go through all of it and still have the same question, well... we can only explain things to you, we cannot make you understand them.

[Jagdtiger]

Originally posted by Jake4159:

What I dont understand is why make a space DLC when theres the Space exploration mod?

Isn't it sorta making money from someone else idea?

There used to be a mod for childrens in Rimworld, but when the DLC that has children came out, how funny, the mod breaks.

The DLC is supposed to be a dumbed down, more accessible interpretation of space exploration than the mod. They have also been planning this for longer than the mod has been around

[Nori]

Originally posted by Jake4159:

What I dont understand is why make a space DLC when theres the Space exploration mod?

Isn't it sorta making money from someone else idea?

There used to be a mod for childrens in Rimworld, but when the DLC that has children came out, how funny, the mod breaks.

They planned the rough idea of this before space exploration was a thing.

Also, a company can't update a game forever without getting some additional income. Factorio is hardly a top seller now so it makes sense to release a DLC. It's that or Factorio 2, which of course would also cost money.

I for one am ecstatic that they are releasing a DLC and I'll buy it the second it's available.

[Vyndicu]

Originally posted by Nori:

They planned the rough idea of this before space exploration was a thing.

Also, a company can't update a game forever without getting some additional income. Factorio is hardly a top seller now so it makes sense to release a DLC. It's that or Factorio 2, which of course would also cost money.

I for one am ecstatic that they are releasing a DLC and I'll buy it the second it's available.

A small correction.

Space Age is a full expansion and not a DLC.

[Nori]

Originally posted by Jake4159:

Has long as this does not become Rimworld or a few very old games from the same time where features that should be free become paid.

You can check my profile, you will see I got tons of hours on factorio. I simply hate it when games bring out dlcs with stuff that should be in the main game. For Rimworld, childrens should had not been locked behind a DLC. Feels like it should be a base feature.

I do get it, economic times are hard, but if you go full greed, it thends to kill you.

Who are you to determine if work that they put into the game should be free or not? They've been working on this game for close to ten years and have only ever asked for the base price of the game. If you don't want to pay for the DLC then don't but I and many others will happily support the devs.

[Nori]

Originally posted by Vyndicu:

Originally posted by Nori:

They planned the rough idea of this before space exploration was a thing.

Also, a company can't update a game forever without getting some additional income. Factorio is hardly a top seller now so it makes sense to release a DLC. It's that or Factorio 2, which of course would also cost money.

I for one am ecstatic that they are releasing a DLC and I'll buy it the second it's available.

A small correction.

Space Age is a full expansion and not a DLC.

Ah yes, the terms get mix around so much these days.

[Jake4159]

Il say it simply, I just don't want the devs to break their own game. Many games followed that dlc route and died very deeply. They added stuff that in the end broke their game.

Best i can do is when I hear of the update coming out, is to keep a copy of 1.0 and play it on an *offline* activated steam version in case 2.0 does bad ♥♥♥♥.

I did this with Kerbal Space Program because of the illegal Scum EULA they added. In my country, such forced EULA are illegal.

[Jake4159]

Also, business 101, customer is always right.

[DaBa]

Moreover, something that should already be apparent to people who read through the updates posted thus far, the "Space Exploration" expansion will contain things that are not part of the mod, even brand new systems that do not exist in the game yet. They aren't taking the mod and selling it to you, they aren't that stupid. Hence why asking why made a space themed expansion when a mod exists doesn't make much sense.

And, let's be honest, the game ends with launching a rocket into space, you can even get on top of that rocket. If you're going to make an actual expansion to the game, adding space related content just makes sense from the progression standpoint. The mod exists for the same reason, it's literally the natural continuation of the base game. It'd be weird if the expansion suddenly featured underground content, or was just a big horizontal expansion of the existing progression curve.