Factorio

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Yami Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:16pm
dotn games after over 2 years ussly go down in price a lil bit
would buy it but geese
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Yami Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:24pm 
what games have increased price more than once after release. bet it wouldnt fly with a triple aaa game
Shurenai Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by Yami:
what games have increased price more than once after release. bet it wouldnt fly with a triple aaa game
AAA games go up in price in other ways. Yknow, Loot boxes. Microtransactions. ♥♥♥♥♥♥ DLC that aren't even close to being worth the price tags they ask. Intentionally awful game design to encourage you to buy all of the above. Yeah, They're $60, or $30 on a sale, but if you want to get the full experience prepare to shell hundreds extra out on a title. Sims 3 for example is close to $1000usd to get it and the side content- And that isn't including their mtx store where you can buy other things. They also sell a LOT of copies with preorders which means full sale price, and typically have multiple editions that cost more, ie, 60 for standard, 80 for deluxe edition, 100+ for top tier edition.

AAA companies have nickle and diming the consumer down so pat that they literally sell many of their games for 80% off just to lure people in to likely get caught in the web of everything else and spend far more than the game would've cost with no sale at all.
Several games have gone up in price including AAA games. This game is still releasing updates and bug fixes and ports to other platforms. An expansion is in active development.

Regional prices were rebalanced to reduce the amount of resales that were occurring and inflation has increased the prices of everything; electricity, salaries, maintenance, distribution, office rent, office costs, and supplies. If you take inflation into account the game is still less expensive than it was at release.

If $5 makes a difference in whether you can afford it you have other problems to worry about and probably shouldn't be spending money on video games.
desertpunk3912 Apr 5, 2023 @ 6:03pm 
Another person using the price to farm awards and points.

What 2-3 year old game has had it's price lowered? Sales don't count. Why are you implying the price has gone up multiple times after full release, when it hasn't?
ShutEye_DK Apr 6, 2023 @ 1:54pm 
OP go use the search option. We've seen enough of these stupid threads.
Sir Calen Apr 6, 2023 @ 1:58pm 
All I can say is that while the game is worth the price, the dev is a greedy ♥♥♥♥ for increase the price and never going on sale.
Chindraba Apr 6, 2023 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Calen:
All I can say is that while the game is worth the price, the dev is a greedy ♥♥♥♥ for increase the price and never going on sale.

And all the greedy bastards demanding a sale are even worse. Imagine trying to tell someone how much their work is worth. Every month, for the next 2 years, you will work for 1 week at half pay. Don't like it? I don't care. That's what I think your work is worth.
Hedning Apr 6, 2023 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:
If $5 makes a difference in whether you can afford it you have other problems to worry about and probably shouldn't be spending money on video games.
How about every tick they increase the price by $5. You could never complain because it is always just $5 more.

Would you pay $5 for one apple? I mean if you can't afford $5 you have bigger problems, right? So why not pay $5 for an apple? Or how about a price increase by $5 on a candy bar? If you can't afford $5 more for some candy you have bigger problems, right? Or maybe eggs now cost $5 each for Easter. You can't complain because surely you can afford $5 for an egg?
Last edited by Hedning; Apr 6, 2023 @ 3:06pm
AlexMBrennan Apr 6, 2023 @ 3:29pm 
the dev is a greedy ♥♥♥♥ for increase the price and never going on sale.
I am sorry to have to break this to you but for profit businesses have sales because that way they make more money. I would be very careful when offered a great discount because the company is trying to rip you off.
Chindraba Apr 6, 2023 @ 3:39pm 
I actually have empathy for some of the folks who got shafted with the price increase, and I have none, or negative if possible, for others. It depends on how they got burned, and sometimes how they present the situation. It also depends on whether or not I see a little mouse.

The ones I feel sorry for the most are those who wanted the game, decided to save up for it, even exercised the self-discipline to do so, and then have the price jump, sometimes double, because of updated regional price changes. I had to save to get the game when I wanted it, and I was worried that version 1.1 would have a price increase, as I knew I'd not have enough saved before it got released. I was just lucky that it didn't go up and that I was able to save enough to get it. I'm also lucky that I use USD, so regional pricing won't ever kick me in the butt, or the bank account, should I choose to get a different game.

The ones I actively despise are the ones with a mouse icon who are screaming about the greedy devs and violations of natural law. Right behind them are the ones who've been waiting for a sale and then complain there isn't one and the price goes up instead. If they can't read the very top pinned topic I'm not feeling very charitable towards them.
Hedning Apr 6, 2023 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:
the dev is a greedy ♥♥♥♥ for increase the price and never going on sale.
I am sorry to have to break this to you but for profit businesses have sales because that way they make more money. I would be very careful when offered a great discount because the company is trying to rip you off.
Sure, lower prices is a ripoff. Only buy the really marked up stuff. When you read the invoice and you find 10 hidden fees that's when you really know the company cares about you.
Chindraba Apr 6, 2023 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:
I am sorry to have to break this to you but for profit businesses have sales because that way they make more money. I would be very careful when offered a great discount because the company is trying to rip you off.

The sale is less of a rip off than the list price. The size and frequency of the "sales" indicates how overpriced the sticker price is. Even Steam's recommendations include setting the list price so there's room for discounts.

In this case I'm not going to trust Valve's transparency. Link's going to be to Imgur.
https://imgur.com/RQi3Sra
Yami Apr 6, 2023 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Chindraba:
Originally posted by Calen:
All I can say is that while the game is worth the price, the dev is a greedy ♥♥♥♥ for increase the price and never going on sale.

And all the greedy bastards demanding a sale are even worse. Imagine trying to tell someone how much their work is worth. Every month, for the next 2 years, you will work for 1 week at half pay. Don't like it? I don't care. That's what I think your work is worth.
im not really demanding a sale thats there choice. it should have never came out of early access if there going to keep adding to the game and then to increase price thats all im saying
Originally posted by Hedning:
Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:
If $5 makes a difference in whether you can afford it you have other problems to worry about and probably shouldn't be spending money on video games.
How about every tick they increase the price by $5. You could never complain because it is always just $5 more.

Would you pay $5 for one apple? I mean if you can't afford $5 you have bigger problems, right? So why not pay $5 for an apple? Or how about a price increase by $5 on a candy bar? If you can't afford $5 more for some candy you have bigger problems, right? Or maybe eggs now cost $5 each for Easter. You can't complain because surely you can afford $5 for an egg?
If your wages keep pace with inflation sure. What's your point? Your posts always lack context.
Chindraba Apr 6, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
I'm relatively new to the game, and don't really get all that involved in tracking the past or future of it. I have the impression, however, that up to a point, which might have been reached now, they'd planned on making some additions to the game. What they haven't done is actually change it. The two biggest things I know of which were added to the game after EA, if I'm right, are the spidertron and limits on train stops. The limits are a bigger issue for me because I like trains, and making unusual things with them, It didn't, however, really change how the game's played or the "balance" of the game. The spidertron seems to be a bigger thing for the game's balance and the player's "power" over the environment, and the bugs. Mostly what they've been "adding" to the game is abilities for modders to access things they need to make even bigger changes with their mods. Everything else seems to be "maintenance" which more software should do, and many games don't do. All of that was, I believe, understood to be their "normal" even while still in EA and planning for full release.

The big thing which wasn't planned was the price increase. Of course, the inflation at such insane levels wasn't planned either. I don't think they would've raised the price at all had the inflation not jumped into polar orbit.

Near as I can tell, once the expansion is released, the updates to the original game will be mostly in the unseen mechanics of the engine. Maybe some updated graphics, which many complain about yet I like. (Still not to happy with the updated icons for the belts personally.) Any changes to the original are just for the convenience of the devs, and that I benefit from it is just a bonus. The reason they want that convenience is that they plan to keep making patches to the game, even after it becomes the "old" game. By having the "engine" in both be the same, they can make any fixes one time and be done. The benefit of that, to me, is that not only is the game I have kept updated with fixes, the fixes won't have to be delayed while they try to fix one version and then figure out how to fix the other.

Lastly, just a reminder, I'm not a gamer. My thoughts probably don't match 75% of what real gamers think. I'm just a dinosaur who happens to have found something fun to do while I wait for my ceòl mòr to finish the variations and return to its ground.

As to the original question, I don't know at all. I'm not a gamer, and don't follow games. I gather that not that many games actually drop their price until there's a better, or at least newer, game which replaces it. So far nothing has come out that has made this game of lower value. I've heard about Dyson and Satisfactory, and know several players who play one of them, or both, and Factorio. While they are different, in some ways, it is possible that either one could, eventually, replace Factorio, or at least give it some competition in the market. Both, however, are still a work in progress, and not close to the same level as Factorio, and are not going to give Factorio and competition or give it a reason to be cheaper. If my guesses about the expansion are correct, that might be a reason for them to then reduce the price of this game. Still no sales, or discounts, just a new, lower, list price. I ain't no prophet and my guesses about the future are more wrong than right. Still, I do get lucky sometimes.

My view isn't that they are "adding" to the game, like devs of any game would while in EA. And many other have claimed the same thing saying that because they haven't "added" anything they have no justification to raise the price. They have added "value" without adding features because it keeps getting better, as a program, and has fewer and fewer software bugs every time. Even a used car sells better if the engine is in good shape and the windows are not broken.
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