Possible to play without aliens / attacks?

[Epictetus]

I have a few games similar to this one but one thing that has always swayed me is the ability to shut down attacks and concentrate on design and building. I can use mods I am sure but I am speaking about the base game. I have just started playing the demo and it seems interesting so far. Not concerned with price though I have seen some discussion regarding that. More concerned in not having to fight for each and every item.

[Elon's Musk]

there is a peaceful mode where the biters only attack if you do. you can also turn them off completely if you want.

[Epictetus]

Originally posted by Mr. Pink:

there is a peaceful mode where the biters only attack if you do. you can also turn them off completely if you want.

Thanks. I was hoping so but so far in the demo I did not see a way. Might be there too just exploring still. Thank you.

[themaxor77]

To be honest I would not have gotten into this masterpiece of a game if I didn't start with biters off. If you want to play around with the fun weapon researches, you can keep them on but turn off evolution/expansion, whatever works the best for you.

[knighttemplar1960]

You can play a few games with them off and then slowly turn up the bugs until you get up to (or past) default settings.

[DCYW]

Stop their evolution and expanding on settings before starting new game by uncheck.

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by =SDZ= Drifter:

Originally posted by Mr. Pink:

there is a peaceful mode where the biters only attack if you do. you can also turn them off completely if you want.

Thanks. I was hoping so but so far in the demo I did not see a way. Might be there too just exploring still. Thank you.

you can disable them in the full game, but not in the demo - since the demo is also the tutorial (and the last 2 levels were two levels in the campaign that followed the tutorial - which was then removed and those 2 level moved into the tutorial)

so for level 3 and 4 there are a few bases you will need to defend against or destroy - and in the last level (5) there are nests everywhere - but you can find means to defend against and destroy them

but as has been said - in the full game you can customise pretty much everything, including the biters - so you can turn off pollution which means they will only attack if you get close - or you can make them peaceful - or you can disable them entirely - and lots of options in between (e.g. not allowing them to expand or evolve etc)

so yes - what you want totally possible in the full game as part of the standard options - good luck :-)

[Chindraba]

Originally posted by Drizzt:

so for level 3 and 4 there are a few bases you will need to defend against or destroy - and in the last level (5) there are nests everywhere - but you can find means to defend against and destroy them

Which reminds me; Still waiting on the thread covering your experience at rediscovery of the demo.

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by Chindraba:

Originally posted by Drizzt:

so for level 3 and 4 there are a few bases you will need to defend against or destroy - and in the last level (5) there are nests everywhere - but you can find means to defend against and destroy them

Which reminds me; Still waiting on the thread covering your experience at rediscovery of the demo.

lol - yeah - i have fully explored the map and have rebuilt all of the facilities (staying as close to the apparent original plans as possible) and got rid of the biters - using as few resources as possible - and just enough to research everything

had a few times where i got myself killed on the last few nests and had to restart due to my insane masochistic ruleset :-)

i also have a save where i deconstructed all of the bases

will probably post a thread about the map soon - maybe over the weekend - also got the Story Missions mod to play some more of before i post a "review" - is looking good so far - have only played the first level - but has some nicely built bases and exploration rewards and the beginnings of some nice storytelling

so yeah - those things will hopefully get done soon

but.......i kind of got distracted from Factorio by picking up Skyrim again to add a few hundred more hours to my thousands already played lol

but i am sure i shall be back to Factorio soon with some reports :-)

[Z0MBE]

Use pollution scrubbers
there's ways to make them very efficient with circuit conditions - Idk how to show screenshot but i've been doing this for years and it's very reliable

[Epictetus]

I have replayed as much of the demo as I care to. Once I reach the point the "biters" start becoming a hassle it pretty much ends my interest. Add to that the price tag I think at this point my questions have been answered and it will be a "pass" for now. I know, who cares and all that but I do appreciate all the responses here.

That said, I am going to use the Steam option to test the actual game for a couple hours before passing final judgement. These types of games, especially those that give little option for reduced cost, send a message that they do not care regardless. In that context at least a demo has been available. I know, different topics but I figured I would stick to a single thread at this point.

I don't expect anything really but the community has been helpful so that does add value for sure. Lets see how it goes.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by =SDZ= Drifter:

I have replayed as much of the demo as I care to. Once I reach the point the "biters" start becoming a hassle it pretty much ends my interest. Add to that the price tag I think at this point my questions have been answered and it will be a "pass" for now. I know, who cares and all that but I do appreciate all the responses here.

Your main standing concern seems to be the biters, which you questioned with this thread if you could disable them and received the answer "Yes, you can turn them off completely, Or leave them in but on peaceful mode where they won't just come attack you for no reason", and your verdict somehow ends up..as 'pass'? O.o

Just to be clear here, The Demo only lets you play the tutorial scenario iirc- It doesn't let you make a Freeplay save which is where you can peaceful/disable/whatever biters as you please.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977603667
This is the freeplay enemy settings menu, All you need to do to make biters non-hostile unless attacked is mark this Peaceful Mode box I have hovered over to show the help text, Or if you just want no biters at all whatsoever, uncheck the box just above it titled 'Enemy Bases' and there won't be any bugs or bug bases at all.

Edit: and to be more clear, 'Freeplay' is the intended default main game mode; After playing the tutorial scenario, your next step is freeplay.

[brian_va]

Originally posted by =SDZ= Drifter:

I have replayed as much of the demo as I care to. Once I reach the point the "biters" start becoming a hassle it pretty much ends my interest. Add to that the price tag I think at this point my questions have been answered and it will be a "pass" for now. I know, who cares and all that but I do appreciate all the responses here.

That said, I am going to use the Steam option to test the actual game for a couple hours before passing final judgement. These types of games, especially those that give little option for reduced cost, send a message that they do not care regardless. In that context at least a demo has been available. I know, different topics but I figured I would stick to a single thread at this point.

I don't expect anything really but the community has been helpful so that does add value for sure. Lets see how it goes. :steamsunny:

i turned the biters off in about 2017, once i found a mod to craft the tokens they used to drop to craft a science potion; haven't felt the need to go back as thats not the game i want to play. the full version allows you to customize the game to your tastes, removing/reducing biters one of them. there are a handful of scenarios to play, but i dont know how they equate to the demos levels. if you are going to potentially refund it, be aware of the time limits. a common meme around here is to remind new players to go to work/eat/sleep whatever.

[Epictetus]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by =SDZ= Drifter:

I have replayed as much of the demo as I care to. Once I reach the point the "biters" start becoming a hassle it pretty much ends my interest. Add to that the price tag I think at this point my questions have been answered and it will be a "pass" for now. I know, who cares and all that but I do appreciate all the responses here.

Your main standing concern seems to be the biters, which you questioned with this thread if you could disable them and received the answer "Yes, you can turn them off completely, Or leave them in but on peaceful mode where they won't just come attack you for no reason", and your verdict somehow ends up..as 'pass'? O.o

Just to be clear here, The Demo only lets you play the tutorial scenario iirc- It doesn't let you make a Freeplay save which is where you can peaceful/disable/whatever biters as you please.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977603667
This is the freeplay enemy settings menu, All you need to do to make biters non-hostile unless attacked is mark this Peaceful Mode box I have hovered over to show the help text, Or if you just want no biters at all whatsoever, uncheck the box just above it titled 'Enemy Bases' and there won't be any bugs or bug bases at all.

Edit: and to be more clear, 'Freeplay' is the intended default main game mode; After playing the tutorial scenario, your next step is freeplay.

I guess you did not see that there was more than one concern or maybe I did not make myself clear.

Yes, biters are an issue.

The cost of the game is quite high and as I have read there is no intention to offer a sale or discount. That is fine I guess since Steam offers a 2 hour playtime before refunding if need be. That simply increases my expectations for quality and at the price point listed I do expect quality and options.

Another issue at this point seems the clarity of graphics within the game and that might be on my end although this would be the only game out of 500+ I own that has this issue.

Additionally, the scrolling and lack of rotation seem to be detrimental as well. Again, might be an issue on this side.

My point is that there are some issues in addition to what my question raised. I should likely have created separate posts but tried to keep it in one location.

[Epictetus]

Originally posted by =SDZ= Drifter:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Your main standing concern seems to be the biters, which you questioned with this thread if you could disable them and received the answer "Yes, you can turn them off completely, Or leave them in but on peaceful mode where they won't just come attack you for no reason", and your verdict somehow ends up..as 'pass'? O.o

Just to be clear here, The Demo only lets you play the tutorial scenario iirc- It doesn't let you make a Freeplay save which is where you can peaceful/disable/whatever biters as you please.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977603667
This is the freeplay enemy settings menu, All you need to do to make biters non-hostile unless attacked is mark this Peaceful Mode box I have hovered over to show the help text, Or if you just want no biters at all whatsoever, uncheck the box just above it titled 'Enemy Bases' and there won't be any bugs or bug bases at all.

Edit: and to be more clear, 'Freeplay' is the intended default main game mode; After playing the tutorial scenario, your next step is freeplay.

I guess you did not see that there was more than one concern or maybe I did not make myself clear.

Yes, biters are an issue.

The cost of the game is quite high and as I have read there is no intention to offer a sale or discount. That is fine I guess since Steam offers a 2 hour playtime before refunding if need be. That simply increases my expectations for quality and at the price point listed I do expect quality and options.

Another issue at this point seems the clarity of graphics within the game and that might be on my end although this would be the only game out of 500+ I own that has this issue.

Additionally, the scrolling and lack of rotation seem to be detrimental as well. Again, might be an issue on this side.

My point is that there are some issues in addition to what my question raised. I should likely have created separate posts but tried to keep it in one location.

Oh, and to add, after reviewing your screenshot I notice that if certain criteria are not met then achievements cannot be completed. That said, the game cannot be played fully in a "peaceful" mode. All good. Like I said, its a game and my expectations / wants are likely different.

[Chindraba]

Uncheck the Enemy Bases option, as said above, and the last biter you see will be the ones in the menu background animations while the game waits for you to launch you game. Then it's just you and the map. And, if that's not enough, you can also completely turn off water, trees and cliffs. Though there will always be a bit of water at the starting point. Have to have at least one to start the game or you'll never make any electricity and the game's already lost. You will start with one piece of wood, with no more to be found. That will become your first, and only, pair of small power poles, after which you'll have to research the medium poles - with lots of switching things around in the few assemblers you can cluster around those poles.
No biters I could do. No cliffs could be nice. No water would be tough, but interesting I think. No trees, obviously it's possible, since you start with the wood, but I'm not the one to do it, not yet anyway.