It's disgusting to see a developer with overwhelming community support decide that...

[Biledriver]

they should try and eke out an extra 5 bucks for a 10 year old game that isn't live service.

Inflation doesn't mean anything to me, because I'm not the company and I do not take the positions of companies to try and defend an organization that is devoted to a monetary ideal. I am a customer, and I'm not in the business of trying to be understanding since this is clearly some sort of way-past-time negotiation that absolutely shouldn't be necessary.

This game doesn't have on-going development costs that exceed the amount that has been made. The game doesn't have a full time staff that needs to be available around the clock to solve user issues. The price of a product, once finished, is set by the period of time in which it was created; 2023 inflation, at the period of this game's creation, did not affect its development.

I love the game. I've played a lot more of the game through less scrupulous methods, but I think it's important to vote with your wallet and support a developer that I think is making an effort to put passion into a project. This makes me significantly less supportive, since it is flatly anti-consumer. I don't care in even the slightest about whatever 'rational' justifications there are, because again, I am not in some weird acting exercise where I attempt to take on the role of the company selling the game.

tl;dr, I see a company being greedy, I give 'em a negative review. Simple as.

[PunCrathod]

Seeing as you can't get something as simple as when the game was released right why would I trust your opinion on complex stuff like how to set a price for a product with ongoing development.

[Biledriver]

Oh man, it took me a whole six seconds to look at a wikipedia page and see that it was, and I'm quoting because I know that's important to you, "announced via an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign in 2013". The game was in officially in development as of 2013. And even if that's not to your liking, you know what the basic principle here is. We're talking about a thing that was introduced at one price in its final state, which is to say 1.0, and is now being increased in price because of greed.

When I thought I was supporting an indie developer, I was happy to give him money. When I found out that I was instead feeding a greedy corporation who feels it necessary to increase the price of an already released product, I get slightly agitated, even when it doesn't affect me directly since I've already purchased the game years ago.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Whargoul:

Oh man, it took me a whole six seconds to look at a wikipedia page and see that it was, and I'm quoting because I know that's important to you, "announced via an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign in 2013". The game was in officially in development as of 2013. And even if that's not to your liking, you know what the basic principle here is. We're talking about a thing that was introduced at one price in its final state, which is to say 1.0, and is now being increased in price because of greed.

When I thought I was supporting an indie developer, I was happy to give him money. When I found out that I was instead feeding a greedy corporation who feels it necessary to increase the price of an already released product, I get slightly agitated, even when it doesn't affect me directly since I've already purchased the game years ago.

You count the age of a game by when it started development?

That's certainly a unique method. Guess you can never buy a new game, they're usually years old by the time they're available!

[Biledriver]

Really, I count them by coming out of early access and setting definitive price on their store page and then selling literally millions of copies.

But, I can understand how reddit has trained you to engage in semantic debates for updoots, enjoy your gold good sir :^)

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Whargoul:

Really, I count them by coming out of early access and setting definitive price on their store page and then selling literally millions of copies.

But, I can understand how reddit has trained you to engage in semantic debates for updoots, enjoy your gold good sir :^)

So it's not a 10 year old game but a 2 year old game then. Good to know.

Might want to fix that error in your first post, kinda awkward to be off by eight years.

[Oobfiche]

arnt they making a expansion pack though for this after its been released?

[Biledriver]

Well, I can clear this up since you're feigning obtuseness for the sake of internet cuteness. I get it, some people only learn how to interact with other people by copying the humor they in media. No judgement here.

The game was announced 10 years ago. It has been sold in multiple iterations since I want to say 2016, for differing prices. However, in a general sense, the game is quite old. There have been changes, and those changes warranted an increase in the price which everyone was comfortable paying.

Now, the game came OUT of early access in 2020. So, we have a total window of 7 years that this game has existed in a playable iteration.

So, sure, I, an angry person, admit to indulging in the cardinal sin of minor hyperbole to express a point.

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by PunCrathod:

Seeing as you can't get something as simple as when the game was released right why would I trust your opinion on complex stuff like how to set a price for a product with ongoing development.

The developers were making money LONG before the game was released. Even Wube themselves say that they were making Factorio for "more than 9 years." Your stubborn, extremely biased attitude is exactly why people are starting to turn their backs on this developer and this community.

[DuX1112]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

You count the age of a game by when it started development?

They were charging for the game ever since it started development, so yes. Same goes to you: your stubborn, extremely biased attitude is exactly why people are starting to turn their backs on this developer and this community.

[Galileus]

Originally posted by Whargoul:

We're talking about a thing that was introduced at one price in its final state, which is to say 1.0

Oh. Why? Factorio is in 1.1 for ages now. Increasing price on 1.0 version would be weird, I agree.

Did you just destroy your own argument with facts and logic?

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by DuX1112:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

You count the age of a game by when it started development?

They were charging for the game ever since it started development, so yes. Same goes to you: your stubborn, extremely biased attitude is exactly why people are starting to turn their backs on this developer and this community.

Determining the age of a game based on when it's finished is a bias that's driving people away from Factorio?

I know people like arguing pointlessly to 'win' online, but this is getting a bit silly, don't you think?

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Whargoul:

Well, I can clear this up since you're feigning obtuseness for the sake of internet cuteness. I get it, some people only learn how to interact with other people by copying the humor they in media. No judgement here.

The game was announced 10 years ago. It has been sold in multiple iterations since I want to say 2016, for differing prices. However, in a general sense, the game is quite old. There have been changes, and those changes warranted an increase in the price which everyone was comfortable paying.

Now, the game came OUT of early access in 2020. So, we have a total window of 7 years that this game has existed in a playable iteration.

So, sure, I, an angry person, admit to indulging in the cardinal sin of minor hyperbole to express a point.

Yeah, 7 years is a more reasonable claim. It's still worth noting that many people tend to avoid early access games and they might consider it less old as a result.

[kolorotur]

Originally posted by Whargoul:

I love the game. I've played a lot more of the game through less scrupulous methods

So you've either bought the game, or pirated it - whatever is meant by "less scrupulous methods".
In either case, you've got the game already - why do you care about its current price? It's not a subscription based, so the changes don't affect you, why do you get so worked up about it?
Perhaps this energy could be better spent fighting other price increases that actually affect you, like rent?
It's a free market where anyone can set any price they want for their product and let the market decide whether the product will continue to sell for that price, or force them to reduce it, or force them to go out of business.

[PunCrathod]

Originally posted by DuX1112:

Originally posted by PunCrathod:

Seeing as you can't get something as simple as when the game was released right why would I trust your opinion on complex stuff like how to set a price for a product with ongoing development.

The developers were making money LONG before the game was released. Even Wube themselves say that they were making Factorio for "more than 9 years." Your stubborn, extremely biased attitude is exactly why people are starting to turn their backs on this developer and this community.

From what I see the community hasn't been this active since September 2021. If anything people are turning towards the developer and the community.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by PunCrathod:

Originally posted by DuX1112:

The developers were making money LONG before the game was released. Even Wube themselves say that they were making Factorio for "more than 9 years." Your stubborn, extremely biased attitude is exactly why people are starting to turn their backs on this developer and this community.

From what I see the community hasn't been this active since September 2021. If anything people are turning towards the developer and the community.

Yeah, honestly I think they'd have gotten more criticism about the price increase if not for all the obviously silly trolls showing up from outside to act like it's a war crime. I'm not a fan of it myself.