I Will Never Buy Your Game Because Of This Latest Anti-Consumer Price Choice

[𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪]

You have one of the most successfully profitable indie games on Steam of all time, this is Scrooge-tier greed hiding behind the "I'm an Indie game" excuse.

Price gouging is unethical.

Locking a 1000+ thread critical of your anti-discount ideology is unethical.

Promoting a market ideology that would increase all prices and eliminate discounts we rely on to afford games and make PC a persuasive platform affordability-wise for gaming, is unethical.

The relatively same digital good should decrease in price over time due to its ideas and codes becoming older and less unique over time. This increase only appeals to fanboys and the gullible -anyone with a basic sense of market ethics should realize this is wrong. The most successfully profitable indie game on Steam of all time that faces no server upkeep costs just jacked up its price instead of adjusting over time and fanboys ate this greedy decision up yet again. And the devs plan to never do discounts. And the devs plan to release a DLC of similar cost to the base game.

It is clear you will never listen.

Owning this game would devalue my collection due to tainting its own reputation with anti-consumer unethical market moves. Playing this game would leave a taste of ash in my mouth and owning this game would make me flat out look bad by association.

I will never buy your game.

[Galileus]

Weren't you here for years crying the same thing?

Yeah, yeah, we get it, why repeat yourself?

[Nico]

You care way too much for this game for that you keep saying that you won't buy it. Just let it go and keep going with your life instead coming back here again and again. Otherwise you just contradict yourself, since there is no reason for staying here if you don't want to buy the game. It's not like you didn't already present your opinion .... Also, from what you write you seem to feel bad because of this game, and it certainly is not good to purposely do something that lets you feel bad, so just stay out of here, for you own health.

Also, interesting to see that you decided to replace your old 'immoral' with 'unethical'.

[𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪]

Originally posted by Morsk:

All game sales do is trick vulnerable people into buying something at the wrong time, for the wrong reason.

You could have spent time from hunting for sales instead socializing on Discord, or talking to your parents.

What a blanket inaccurate statement on how sales work. Sales exist to ensure more sales in exchange for a lower price, which leads to more profit. Digital sales especially go low, because it's literally digital you can produce an infinite number of copies and it won't physically deteriorate. If you lack maturity with buying at the right time and buying for the right reason, grow up, figure out what you really want, make good decisions based on that.

[Galileus]

Originally posted by 𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪:

figure out what you really want, make good decisions based on that.

So I should buy things based on what I want and need, not on a shiny sticker next to it's price?

Thanks, got it!

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by 𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪:

Originally posted by Morsk:

All game sales do is trick vulnerable people into buying something at the wrong time, for the wrong reason.

You could have spent time from hunting for sales instead socializing on Discord, or talking to your parents.

What a blanket inaccurate statement on how sales work. Sales exist to ensure more sales in exchange for a lower price, which leads to more profit. Digital sales especially go low, because it's literally digital you can produce an infinite number of copies and it won't physically deteriorate. If you lack maturity with buying at the right time and buying for the right reason, grow up, figure out what you really want, make good decisions based on that.

No. Sales exist because humans are easily tricked into buying things with them. When you want one thing, but it's on sale for 2 for 3, You buy 2- Not because you wanted 2, But because it feels bad to our brain to NOT get more abundance when it's available.

It's literal biological impetus to desire better 'deals' and more 'abundance' with less 'expense' when at all possible. It originates from a desire to spend less energy for more food and easier survival; But it extends into modern day 'sales' too.

Just look at how many people have monumental steam libraries of games they've never even launched- Hundreds of games, potentially even thousands. Not because they WANTED those games, but because it was 80% off and their brain went "it's on such a big sale and I might not get this chance to grab it again, buy it".

[𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪]

Originally posted by Ass Grenadier:

Originally posted by 𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪:

figure out what you really want, make good decisions based on that.

So I should buy things based on what I want and need, not on a shiny sticker next to it's price?

Thanks, got it!

I just want well-priced games. Bloons TD 6 while not really a factory game adds tons of content regularly, has its price low by default and routinely drops astronomically, and has a great flourishing community in addition to having mobile-to-desktop gaming and saving options. Just 1 of countless examples of other games by that offer way more over time for way less. Admittedly not an indie but Binding of Isaac never had trouble adding tons while heavily discounting either. Just naming a couple of games I sunk a small chunk of time into that at least acted like they cared about content-to-price/age-to-price when discounting and pricing.

Honestly it makes no sense the devs behind Factorio would gamble their livelihoods on this price increase. They'll have potential short-term gains? (maybe?) at the cost of long-term loyalty and reputation.

If a dev wants to damper my screed, feel free to offer a 2 cents. Is there a financial reason to do something this risky relative to market norms?

[knighttemplar1960]

No one cares. If you were going to buy the game you would all ready have it. If a 10% off sale (ie: $3) makes or breaks your personal finances you shouldn't be wasting your money on video games. Lots of free to play games available even on steam so don't let the door catch you on your way out.

[Hurkyl]

Originally posted by 𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪:

I just want well-priced games. Bloons TD 6

So what you're looking for is games that monetize through in-app purchases, then?

[Caleb]

Ass Grenadier, do you work for the dev, sure seem to be defending this BS overtime.

[Olyvya]

OP isn't wrong. The game is six years old or at a minimum two years old since full release. Old software prices should go DOWN, not up. The inflation argument holds no merit. The day to day essentials have skyrocketed, its ludicrious to go "oh and that old extra stuff that normally gets cheaper over time? We're gonna do the opposite and start increasing the price"

[knighttemplar1960]

Originally posted by BlazedRogue:

OP isn't wrong. The game is six years old or at a minimum two years old since full release. Old software prices should go DOWN, not up. The inflation argument holds no merit. The day to day essentials have skyrocketed, its ludicrious to go "oh and that old extra stuff that normally gets cheaper over time? We're gonna do the opposite and start increasing the price"

You know how long it takes to manufacture a large appliance or a car? That "new" washing machine you bought was probably assembled 3-6 months ago using parts that may have been manufactured 3-6 moths prior to that. Every thing about it was all ready paid for yet the dealer increased the price all the same citing inflation.

By your own admission it took 4 years to "build" this game program and if you know the least thing about running a business labor is the largest expense. This game is still being updated with bug fixes and I have no doubt that some of the base game is undergoing additional development to support the upcoming expansion. Its not "done" by any stretch of the imagination. A game is "done" when the developer stops supporting it because no more development or bug fixes are required or desired or the programming method/hardware the program is designed to run on are obsolete.

[Nico]

Originally posted by BlazedRogue:

OP isn't wrong. The game is six years old or at a minimum two years old since full release. Old software prices should go DOWN, not up. The inflation argument holds no merit. The day to day essentials have skyrocketed, its ludicrious to go "oh and that old extra stuff that normally gets cheaper over time? We're gonna do the opposite and start increasing the price"

Honest question: Why has Software to go down in price over time? It's not like the software is slowly but steadily getting worse over time. Eswpecially if it keeps getting new updates.

[Zeruca]

Originally posted by BlazedRogue:

OP isn't wrong. The game is six years old or at a minimum two years old since full release. Old software prices should go DOWN, not up. The inflation argument holds no merit. The day to day essentials have skyrocketed, its ludicrious to go "oh and that old extra stuff that normally gets cheaper over time? We're gonna do the opposite and start increasing the price"

Glad to see someone here with some common sense and isn't white knighting for the devs for no reason.

[Pixieish]

The devs have to raise the price though! Won't someone please think of the poor millionaires, and their struggles? This year, they might need to settle for a Mercedes instead of a Bentley.

[edesignspl]

Same, lost my potential business. Heck, I still haven't given Netflix a penny since their price increase drama back in the 00's. I don't forget and I'm perfectly happy to go without a certain game, my life doesn't revolve around 'em, could not care less what the latest popular game is.

Games go down in price over time as they age and a few gems stay the same. This one could've been in the latter category with Rimworld.

Originally posted by Nico:

Honest question: Why has Software to go down in price over time? It's not like the software is slowly but steadily getting worse over time. Eswpecially if it keeps getting new updates.

Because the overwhelming majority of the work has already been done on it and it's not like a manuctured, physical product where raw materials DO go up over time. This is just a cash grab because of the current world economic picture. Let's flip it around, what has changed that warrants a price increase that other games haven't done while keeping their prices the same (games have major updates and do not charge extra, DLC is a different story, but let's not get off-base :) ). There isn't really anything the dev is currently doing that is available to customers that warrants a price increase except "I want to". It's not even something of value that would appreciate over time (generally, always ups and downs) like precious metals, gems, stocks, property, and so forth. If anything it's a depreciating valued product when nothing new is added and it ages.

And Nico, you can be darned sure this dev would NOT lower the price if inflation ever went down. Another reason it's a garbage excuse :)