The game feels so hopeless when you can't find oil.

[Rio]

Due to the mechanic, destroy spawner enemies evolve.

I often feel in factorio the same feeling from playing a zombie horror survival. Except that in some they encourage exploration early game, factorio doesn't really because bases are already all over.

My game is many hours in. Have nearly every red and green potion researched. I have a train, a car, used up the stone at spawn, made 20 to 30+ radars I've spread out on the map in hopes of seeing some puple/pink. I don't want to restart as its been a very hard game with trying to get the lazy achivement. I have 1500 - 3000 alien artifacts I can't use.

The enemy bases are 1/3 medium biters it feels like. Every spawner I destroy, to search more just pushes the game closer to making me lose.

I did set the game harder like more uncommon and smaller, but dense ores, and enemy bases to very high. But there should be some oil somewhere not that far from spawn as vitally important as it is, even on the lowest oil settings.

I wonder why every mid/late tech is locked behind oil. Like why do the gun turret higher upgrades need to be oil locked when once you have oil you'll probably switch to laser turrets?

Its a shame theres not like something that might point the way to the nearest oil. Given how difficult exploration in factorio can be.

[Acarin]

You should _always_ have oil available in your start area. Usually only 4 average-yield wells, but it should be there (same as copper, iron, stone and coal). Are you sure there's nothing around your start?

[globule]

We keep pushing further to find oil.. a lot of good people died in the last exploration..
biters are gettng stronger.. resources are running low... they are coming...
We need oil .. they are attacking our walls .... they are co-

**** end of transmission ****

[Rio]

Originally posted by Acarin:

You should _always_ have oil available in your start area. Usually only 4 average-yield wells, but it should be there (same as copper, iron, stone and coal). Are you sure there's nothing around your start?

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I've searched pretty far.

[profitX10]

I modded the black market mod and we can sell alien artifacts buy raw resources including oil with them on my lan server

[Rio]

I give up on this map. Wherever the oil was hiding I'll never find it. But enemy bases are all medium biters and spiters now.

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[daemonworks]

Originally posted by Acarin:

You should _always_ have oil available in your start area. Usually only 4 average-yield wells, but it should be there (same as copper, iron, stone and coal). Are you sure there's nothing around your start?

The world-generation has been known to glitch out on starting resources from time to time, with missing or disturbingly sparse oil being the thing i usually see reported. Spreading out the ores too much to be practical during the bootstrapping phase is also an occasional concern, but easier to deal with unless the rest of the world settings are particularly brutal.

[daemonworks]

The game is supposed to ensure that you always have some oil to start with precisely because it's absolutely required.

The one thing I can suggest if you really want to salvage this game... I know there's a console command that nukes all the biters (no idea what it is, but i know it exists). You could save the game, nuke them all, explore to find whatever oil there may be, and then reload from once you know where it is, and decide whether it's worth making that push.

[Acarin]

There is also a console command to spawn a patch of a resource (see "Console Commands" in the wiki: https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Console), and I'm not sure if this works for oil or not. However, it would definitely disable his achievements, which would be an issue as he is chasing the Lazy B*****d award...

[Lawlzer]

Holy damn. You explored. Really, really far. Daaaaaang.

[profitX10]

Strange i actually dont see any resources on that map. I

[Lawlzer]

Originally posted by profit:

Strange i actually dont see any resources on that map. I

Maybe he changed his settings?

[Rio]

Originally posted by profit:

Strange i actually dont see any resources on that map. I

The resources are small but dense, its really hard to see as the map is zoomed out so very far since I explored so far. The train tracks away from my base lead to an iron resource that I was sending my train to refill up at. The base still has a small amount of iron, a bunch of copper, coal. Theres one or two other iron's on the map and some coal.

[Duckyness]

hey, using your map seed and the console commands... I have found your oil..... but the distance you have to travel is going to be great. currently sitting north and off to the east a little bit. mostly north. will add you and help you find it f you want.

[Acarin]

Oh, good one Duckyness! You get today's gold star for "Most Helpful Player"!

[Rio]

Originally posted by Duckyness:

hey, using your map seed and the console commands... I have found your oil..... but the distance you have to travel is going to be great. currently sitting north and off to the east a little bit. mostly north. will add you and help you find it f you want.

I started a new map yesterday, after I gave up. Already at purple potion requiring tech in the new map. Had both oil near spawn and some not too far to the west.