Factorio

Factorio

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Water to be a Ressource and Rain
I just watcht a dokumentari about water Problems in our future (climate change) so i thought maybe it World be a nice ad to the game since water seems to be endless in the game at this point. So maybe u also want to contribu to this idea. (Sorry for my bad grama)
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Full Frontal Alchemist lähetti viestin:
"Na-ah! You are stooped! You misspelled something, that only happens to dumb people!".
If I'm an expert on factorio I wouldn't spell it "factory game". If I was a seasoned lawyer I wouldn't spell prosecutor "accusing guy". You're not dumb for misspelling it, but it proves you are not an expert in it and that you are talking out of your behind. It's absolutely relevant to point it out. If he had not presented himself as an expert I wouldn't have cared.
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Hedning lähetti viestin:
Better stop talking so you stop embarrassing yourself.

Too late. Both of you made idiots out of yourself. "Na-ah! You are stooped! You misspelled something, that only happens to dumb people!".

Please, stop inducing people with second hand cringe.
Don't waste your time. He knows I'm physically disabled (poor motor control and vision loss from a stroke) and like the bigoted ableist he is, he keeps on attacking especially in areas where he specifically knows I'm disabled.
knighttemplar1960 lähetti viestin:
Don't waste your time. He knows I'm physically disabled (poor motor control and vision loss from a stroke) and like the bigoted ableist he is, he keeps on attacking especially in areas where he specifically knows I'm disabled.
A disability made you spell "thermodynamics" "thermal dynamics". That's not a typo. That's clearly not knowing what it's called. Who do you think buys your bs? I guess your conspiracy friends...
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Hedning; 10.8.2022 klo 15.23
Full Frontal Alchemist lähetti viestin:
Too late. Both of you made idiots out of yourself. "Na-ah! You are stooped! You misspelled something, that only happens to dumb people!".

Please, stop inducing people with second hand cringe.

I recommend ignoring Hedning.

It is not the first thread they have blown out of proportion—several times against me and several times against Knighttemplar1960.
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Full Frontal Alchemist lähetti viestin:
Too late. Both of you made idiots out of yourself. "Na-ah! You are stooped! You misspelled something, that only happens to dumb people!".

Please, stop inducing people with second hand cringe.

I recommend ignoring Hedning.

It is not the first thread they have blown out of proportion—several times against me and several times against Knighttemplar1960.
I haven't blocked him yet because most of his political posturing and elitist prattle is amusing in a sad and pathetic way.

If he leaves his poisonous politics aside and focuses on the game he actually does give the occasional bit of good advice about the game (although he usually over complicates it for new players). I have given him non-jester awards on occasion when his posts are accurate, brief, and clear.
knighttemplar1960 lähetti viestin:
If he leaves his poisonous politics aside and focuses on the game he actually does give the occasional bit of good advice about the game
Let me remind you I only replied to three of you guys bringing politics to this topic. I didn't bring it up.

Vyndicu lähetti viestin:
It is not the first thread they have blown out of proportion
Let me see. Knighttemplar has called climate change "pseudoscience". He's called scientific consensus "the nerd version of the Oscars", peer review "facetious". He's called me "indoctrinated" for believing in main-stream science and a "hypocrite". Not him but someone else called it a "Virtue signal" just to point out that ACC is not a conspiracy.

Now what have I done to escalate or blow anything out of proportion? I called him out on his fake expert claim. That's it.

You seem to agree that climate change is real, or you were when you thought I did not. Knighttemplar is the one denying ACC and I'm the one defending science, like in the article you linked. Do you understand we are actually on the same side here, or will you switch side just to remain my antagonist?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Hedning; 10.8.2022 klo 16.07
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knighttemplar1960 lähetti viestin:
If he leaves his poisonous politics aside and focuses on the game he actually does give the occasional bit of good advice about the game
Let me remind you I only replied to three of you guys bringing politics to this topic. I didn't bring it up.

Vyndicu lähetti viestin:
It is not the first thread they have blown out of proportion
Let me see. Knighttemplar has called climate change "pseudoscience". He's called scientific consensus "the nerd version of the Oscars", peer review "facetious". He's called me "indoctrinated" for believing in main-stream science and a "hypocrite". Not him but someone else called it a "Virtue signal" just to point out that ACC is not a conspiracy.

Now what have I done to escalate or blow anything out of proportion? I called him out on his fake expert claim. That's it.

You seem to agree that climate change is real, or you were when you thought I did not. Knighttemplar is the one denying ACC and I'm the one defending science, like in the article you linked. Do you understand we are actually on the same side here, or will you switch side just to remain my antagonist?

You thought knighttemplar1960 was talking about pseudoscience being real, and he did not do that at any point in this thread other than saying that science from Facebook is unreliable. No good science comes from a political point of view. Also, knighttemplar1960 did not claim to be an expert at any point either.

You have blown up several threads, and I have warned you to deal with your issue before coming to the Steam forum. Surprise, you still haven't dealt with whatever is weighing on you in real life and started a new spicy conversation.


As for me, I am a computer science major, and I deal with theories and testing them on a different level to prove or disprove a theory than Knighttemplar1960 does. However, I still deal with facts and politics differently (partially because where I work, the fund doesn't come from grants).
Vyndicu lähetti viestin:
You thought knighttemplar1960 was talking about pseudoscience being real, and he did not do that at any point in this thread other than saying that science from Facebook is unreliable.
You should read the thread again, because you still seem totally confused. He is denying ACC. The fact that humans are causing climate change is not based in politics. It's reality. Your own link agrees. Your link should have been posted in reply to Knighttemplar, not me, because he's the one disagreeing with it. Somehow you got our positions completely backwards.

After 3 different people posted climate denial I made a post to the contrary. What's wrong with that? Why am I not allowed to tell the truth after 3 people post conspiracy nonsense?
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Hurkyl lähetti viestin:
Another study I read relatively recently on a political hot button topic found a significant negative correlation between two things. But in the introduction/conclusion, they authors didn't state the result they found -- they instead characterized their results as being agnostic
You mean the quote mine you read in one of your blogs didn't agree with the actual conclusion of the scientists themselves.
No, I mean the introduction and conclusion sections actual scientific paper publishing the results of their study.

All of the examples I give in that post come from actually reading the actual scientific papers that scientists publish their results with.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Hurkyl; 10.8.2022 klo 20.43
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Vyndicu lähetti viestin:
You thought knighttemplar1960 was talking about pseudoscience being real, and he did not do that at any point in this thread other than saying that science from Facebook is unreliable.
You should read the thread again, because you still seem totally confused. He is denying ACC. The fact that humans are causing climate change is not based in politics. It's reality. Your own link agrees. Your link should have been posted in reply to Knighttemplar, not me, because he's the one disagreeing with it. Somehow you got our positions completely backwards.

After 3 different people posted climate denial I made a post to the contrary. What's wrong with that? Why am I not allowed to tell the truth after 3 people post conspiracy nonsense?

No, I do not need to reread the thread from the beginning to Hurkyl's reply to you, as I have been posting since the third post. I mentioned the seablock modpack, which turns water into a resource to OP) in my first post in this thread.

Knighttemplar1960 IS advocating for Human-caused climate changes, also known as Anthropogenic Climate Change (which you abbreviated as ACC in your post).

Which three people are advocating for climate denial? Certainly not Knighttemplar1960, as I double-checked his posts and found nothing to indicate a position of climate change denial.
Hedning lähetti viestin:
If I'm an expert on factorio I wouldn't spell it "factory game"

Also, it's "Factorio". With capitalized "F". Only a Chinese spy would make that mistake. It's crucial to point it out.

God, you are so desperate to get a win my teeth hurt. You would agree your mother is a dirty *** if it gave you "discussion points", wouldn't you?
Hurkyl lähetti viestin:
No, I mean the introduction and conclusion sections actual scientific paper publishing the results of their study.
Doesn't mean it's not being quote-mined. How about you link it?

Vyndicu lähetti viestin:
Which three people are advocating for climate denial?
-Sigismund (post #4). I don't get the Nestlé reference but process of elimination tells me it's climate change denial.
-gonavy (post #5).
-knighttemplar (every post after his first)

Vyndicu lähetti viestin:
Knighttemplar1960 IS advocating for Human-caused climate changes
I'm the one advocating for ACC. Why would I argue against him if we were on the same side? Do you think I am denying ACC? Your reading comprehension is so bad. You're getting our positions on the topic 180° turned around.

Full Frontal Alchemist lähetti viestin:
Also, it's "Factorio". With capitalized "F". Only a Chinese spy would make that mistake. It's crucial to point it out.
My phone auto-capitalizes the first letter of sentences and some common things like "I" and common proper names, but "Factorio" it didn't recognize as a proper name and I was either careless enough to not notice or lazy to not change it. That's quite different to a "researcher" calling it "thermal dynamics". I called it a spelling error but it really has nothing to do with spelling. He clearly didn't know what it was called. If we were using voice chat he would have said "thermal dynamics". It is important to point out because he claims it disproves accepted scientific facts, but he doesn't even know what it's called. If he wasn't arrogantly claiming to have disproved science I wouldn't have pointed it out.
Hedning lähetti viestin:
It is important to point out because he claims it disproves accepted scientific facts, but he doesn't even know what it's called. If he wasn't arrogantly claiming to have disproved science I wouldn't have pointed it out.

You pointed it out, because you are desperate to argue people, not facts. Were it any different, you would jump off of your high horse and admit it was uncalled for. Instead, you double down and pretend miss-spelling somehow "proves" someone's mental capacity. It's as honest an argument as saying a fat guy cannot be right about athletics, no matter what he said.

The only arrogant person in here is you. I'm done here, the fact you still pretend your attack was somehow "important, crucial even!" (not arrogant at all, no) is beyond pathetic.
Full Frontal Alchemist lähetti viestin:
"proves" someone's mental capacity.
That's your interpretation. Knowledge and mental capacity is not the same thing. He's ignorant of climate science and thermodynamics and spewing misinformation about it. Doesn't mean he is mentally inferior. There's probably things he or you know that I don't. The difference is I am not presenting myself as an expert and claiming to have disproved facts about those things. Like say you are an expert on ancient Assyria and I jumped in talking about how everything you knew was fake, while calling Mesopotamia "Maestro mania". You would point it out.
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Hurkyl lähetti viestin:
No, I mean the introduction and conclusion sections actual scientific paper publishing the results of their study.
Doesn't mean it's not being quote-mined. How about you link it?
No. The whole point of omitting specifics in the first place is to avoid bringing more politics into the discussion.

I'm not sure what you even think you're arguing against. Does the idea that scientists might ever misrepresent their results offend you that badly? Are you really trying to take up the position that scientists always represent their results flawlessly, without exception?

As strongly as you believe in the hivemind, I'm sure you can come up with examples of wrongthink by scientists that have fallen out of your disfavor that you would like to characterize as misreporting the science. (P.S. the hivemind position on that particular topic at the time was that "positive correlation" and "we don't have enough data to prove a positive correlation" were the only acceptable things to say)

Or... do you just have some vehement personal animosity towards me that you are desperate to say I'm wrong about something even when provided with absolutely no content for you to have an opinion about?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Hurkyl; 11.8.2022 klo 5.47
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