Cool Seed for Purists

[Blitz4]

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Default settings, vanilla pic:
https://i.imgur.com/RO6qKrj.png

Spawn is just to right of coal in the middle.
Lots of flat open grass to play in.

You can see the 2 biter nests next to iron & copper that make the start fun.
Once done with the fun, it's easy building.

Not much water.
Not much cliffs.
Lots of grass.
3 oil deposits and 1 uranium visible to start.

Downsides
I didn't find any big boulders near the start.
Cliffs are cliffs, they suck.

Did manage to fit the 3 oil patches in a 100x100 grid.
https://i.imgur.com/9OGSR5I.png

[Nico]

You know that there also is a map string, right? so it automatically puts in all map settings as well as the seed.
And if you dislike Cliffs you can always disable them.

[Maverick Mullah]

Originally posted by Nico:

You know that there also is a map string, right? so it automatically puts in all map settings as well as the seed.
And if you dislike Cliffs you can always disable them.

Off-topic sorta, but is blowing up the cliffs not a solution?

[jimmyzgreek]

Originally posted by Maverick Mullah:

Originally posted by Nico:

You know that there also is a map string, right? so it automatically puts in all map settings as well as the seed.
And if you dislike Cliffs you can always disable them.

Off-topic sorta, but is blowing up the cliffs not a solution?

blue science Dansgame

[Maverick Mullah]

Originally posted by jimmyzgreek:

Originally posted by Maverick Mullah:

Off-topic sorta, but is blowing up the cliffs not a solution?

blue science Dansgame

I'm almost at that point...probably will have to prioritize it since my area has too many.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Nico:

You know that there also is a map string, right? so it automatically puts in all map settings as well as the seed.
And if you dislike Cliffs you can always disable them.

Yes. I meant for purists. You choose default map type and this seed, it doesn't show the "Default [modified]" string indicating you're not pure.

I heard there's a chance when changing a map setting that some or all achievements are disabled, if true then only "unmodified" map types guarantee achievements and sharing map strings could also disable achievements. So I share seed numbers, unless you wouldn't mind pointing me to the criteria that disables achievements.

There's a game called X3. The entire series of X-games are brilliant. They can be heavily modded. When making small modifications that don't impact gameplay, the game doesn't disable achievements, but when you do make a change that modifies gameplay, it add a *modified string to your save that disables achievements. So it tells you if achievements are disabled, something Factorio is lacking.

[Blitz4]

This brilliant post clued me in how to figure it out
https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=96339

Look at the 100% achievement run and copy their exchange string. So I did that. Here's some pics of the settings if Factorio is n/a atm and the map string.

I guess the only one needed is to keep enemy bases at 100% Hz & Size.

https://imgur.com/a/2KuNfV0

[kremlin]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

So it tells you if achievements are disabled, something Factorio is lacking.

Factorio tracks your achievements when using mods separately. You'll still be able to get them all in a modded game, just not recorded on Steam's tracker.


The wiki tells you what settings disable achievements.

https://wiki.factorio.com/Achievements

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by kremlin:

Originally posted by Blitz4:

So it tells you if achievements are disabled, something Factorio is lacking.

Factorio tracks your achievements when using mods separately. You'll still be able to get them all in a modded game, just not recorded on Steam's tracker.


The wiki tells you what settings disable achievements.

https://wiki.factorio.com/Achievements

Does that mean any mods prevent Steam achiemevents?

Also the post above, would those settings allow Steam achievements?

The achievements wiki doesn't answer these questions.

OOPS: "A separate instance of achievements will be used when mods are installed and earned achievements will not register with Steam. In multiplayer, achievements can only be earned if the player has spent more than 50% of the time online."

So just the second question

[Blitz4]

"Within the freeplay game, enabling peaceful mode or setting enemy bases to anything lower than default disables the following achievements: There is no spoon, No time for chit-chat, Raining bullets and Steam all the way. Any other changes to map generation or using the debug modes does not disable achievements."

This quote is what I'm challenging. Per a public Factorio I trust stated there's more options that disable achievements or steam achievements. The game doesn't make it clear. However wiki says

"Furthermore, using script or cheat commands in the console disables achievements, however the user will be warned about this the first time they try to run such a command."

so if I run /permissions in factorio, i don't get achievments? I would use /permissions to disable "Craft" so I don't accidentally craft anything by hand. But it would warn me it says, so I have to trust I would see a warning. There is no warning in the map settings, that's what I'm getting at, it's not clear.

[kremlin]

I don't think permissions is one of the cheat commands they're talking about.

Here's the 100% guide, it doesn't say anything different, it tells you that changing the sliders other than the ones you can change will disable achievements.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1M7XmNFgtRcDuXxXEtb3TMKWZptYO6FCCeoxq5_RUOsg/edit

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by kremlin:

I don't think permissions is one of the cheat commands they're talking about.

Here's the 100% guide, it doesn't say anything different, it tells you that changing the sliders other than the ones you can change will disable achievements.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1M7XmNFgtRcDuXxXEtb3TMKWZptYO6FCCeoxq5_RUOsg/edit

Thank you. That document answered a lot of additional questions I had, even things I didn't know I wanted to know about.

It does say don't use permissions as that's against speedruns.com rules, the only mention of it there. It doesn't confirm that using permissions will or won't prevent achievements.
https://i.imgur.com/evQDDE7.png

In the pic it suggests as a tip. to unbind all buttons to craft items. The current WR does not do this from what I've seen. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1461742352

You can show hand items count top left by pinning an achievement: https://i.imgur.com/XUtY25a.jpeg

I believe that will also tell you in game if any achievement is disabled, ie: if you turned on peaceful mode, and that should work for any cheat commands:
https://i.imgur.com/dGyjsbs.png