Storage Chest problem?

[atomicflx]

I decided to build a yellow storage chest so the logistic bots will empty my personal garbage slots. The problem is they keep filling it with items they should be delivering to other spots in the factory and wont stop. I built 4 more yellow chests and the bots keep filling up all the chests.

I thought perhaps the bots though it was faster to store in the chests so I decided to build another group of chesst as far from the factroy as I could and it still fills up with bots flying clear across the factory to fill them

Whats going on? I just want a trash bin but it's not helpful when the chests fill up with stuff that should not be there. Am I doing something wrong?

[Hedning]

Provider chests can't be loaded by bots, only inserters or player action. Requester chests will only be loaded with items that you select. The same for buffer chests.

Everything that isn't requested by a requester or buffer chest, or requested by the player, or used by construction bots using blueprints or repairs will build up in storage. An assembler or smelter can't request directly from a logistics chest. You need an inserter from that chest or from a requester or buffer chest.

Storage is the last place bots use to put the items when there is no room anywhere else, and the first place to get emptied when requested.

If you want some items to be at a specific place use buffer or requester chests.

[atomicflx]

I under stand how all the other chests work. It's just the storage chests that seem to have a problem. Are you saying the storage chests (yellow) will fill up with stuff no matter what? To the point where the bots are just hovering above full chests wiating to empty and shutting down the entire logistic bot netowrk because all the bots are full trying to empty into a storage chest for no reason?

I can just expect all my bots to be out of commision because I built a yellow chest and they are trying to fill an already full chest of stuff that should not be there? Will they never stop no matter how many chests I build?

[Hedning]

If there is no place to put the items they will use storage chests. It's the very last thing they will try when everything else is full. Bots can only place items on ghost images (eg from blueprins) or in logistics chests, except provider chests.

If there is no space anywhere then yes they will hover around waiting for free space. Where do you expect the bots to take the items? They won't put items just as free objects on the ground if that's what you are asking.

[atomicflx]

They are intentionaly going and getting items to put into these stroage chests. This is not garbage collection, they are flying to passvie provider chests (red) and active provider chests (purple) picking up items that are needed elsewhare, flying them to the yellow storage chests and filling them up. When the stroage chests are full the bots go pick up more from the passive and active chests and go hover over the yellow chests.

Its not that there is no room, they are intentionaly filling these storage chests over any other activity when they should be delivering between active provider to the requester chests or filling my personal inventory from the passive chests.

[Hedning]

Bots will not take items from passive providers to storage chests, only from active providers. The purpose of using active providers is just this, to keep the active provider empty and have them fly the items to storage or requesters. If that is not what you want use passive providers instead. If your bots are flying things from passive providers to storage chests you are either having a bug, or a mod conflict.

[AlexMBrennan]

Its not that there is no room, they are intentionaly filling these storage chests over any other activity when they should be delivering between active provider to the requester chests

That's your problem right there - you are using active provider chests when you should be using passive provider chests.

[Name Lips]

Active provider chests demand that robots empty their contents into storage chests as quickly as possible. Their job is to stay empty. I find they have limited use in vanilla factorio, but when I use Bobs and Angels mods, there are a lot of processes that produce byproducts. If these fill up a whole chest, the process will stop, and the product I want will stop being produced. So I can use active provider chests to make sure the process keeps going (until all my storage is full, but by then hopefully I've set up the process to get rid of the byproduct).

[Platinawolf]

Originally posted by Name Lips:

Active provider chests demand that robots empty their contents into storage chests as quickly as possible. Their job is to stay empty. I find they have limited use in vanilla factorio, but when I use Bobs and Angels mods, there are a lot of processes that produce byproducts. If these fill up a whole chest, the process will stop, and the product I want will stop being produced. So I can use active provider chests to make sure the process keeps going (until all my storage is full, but by then hopefully I've set up the process to get rid of the byproduct).

I use them all the time for robotized fluid handling to deal with all the barrels that otherwise build up. Other than that, they are pretty much only useful as a "Omg, to much junk in my inventory, bots, take all this junk away" chest.

[Killcreek2]

Originally posted by Platinawolf:

Originally posted by Name Lips:

Active provider chests demand that robots empty their contents into storage chests as quickly as possible. Their job is to stay empty. I find they have limited use in vanilla factorio, but when I use Bobs and Angels mods, there are a lot of processes that produce byproducts. If these fill up a whole chest, the process will stop, and the product I want will stop being produced. So I can use active provider chests to make sure the process keeps going (until all my storage is full, but by then hopefully I've set up the process to get rid of the byproduct).

I use them all the time for robotized fluid handling to deal with all the barrels that otherwise build up. Other than that, they are pretty much only useful as a "Omg, to much junk in my inventory, bots, take all this junk away" chest.

Gotta disagree about active providers, they are really useful even in vanilla for more than just dealing with trash. & barrels should never build up a backlog, if you set the buffers / train[i.imgur.com] conditions[i.imgur.com] well.
I use them extensively at train unloading stations[i.imgur.com] & the player shop: makes it easy to unload a train evenly with no lopsided wagons, & allows a cental storage area in the shop.
They also allow *precise* buffer control. However: you do need to throttle the inserters loading those chests, else you get a runaway flow-to-storage problem such as the OP has found [which is also easy, as they are already inside that logi net range, huzzah].


Understanding the differences between the chest types & how they interact with other things, is not really obvious at a glance [certainly far less obvious than with belts / trains], but once you do: all the chest types have a place & can be used together.