How do You manage to finish game in 8 hours.

[Doskol]

Topic is partly joke, but seriously this achievement is incredibly difficult.
Its my second attempt in factorio, I did spend 15 hours and I just managed to make blue science atm :P
https://imgur.com/a/vK6USEl

[Fel]

For starters, you are allowed to put the resource sliders to have massive, rich and frequent ore deposits, not sure what the settings were for your map.

In the pre-electricity phase you will want to go up to about 20 burner mining drill + stone furnace on iron, 5-10 on copper, 10+ drills on coal and 4 on stone, all of it without inserters or belts.
This will produce a lot of plates to allow you to smoothly transition towards automation with as little down time as possible.

Make a quick and dirty red science setup fed from chests that you manually feed to kickstart your research as early as possible.

Don't put too much space between lines initially because the cost in belts means that you are not spending those resources scaling up your production.

Generally speaking, don't try to have pristine looking designs and go in with a plan where you know how many of each machine for each recipe you are going to need.

This achievement is a test of your understanding of the game's various mechanics, including ratios and thorughput.


If you want examples of what it looks like when people push it to the extreme, you can check out a few speedruns, a few of these people also have videos that explain how they approach it, why they do things in a specific order or use a specific amount of machines.
https://www.speedrun.com/factorio#Any
https://www.speedrun.com/factorio#Default_Settings

Any% is with the map settings pushed to their limits, default settings is with the default map settings (and the best still manage to get it under 3 hours).

Of course you will not be able to execute things as well as them and you will probably not need a production/throughput as high as they have since your aim is a bit under 8 hours, not 2-3 hours but they are a good source of inspiration, especially for how to handle the early game and get up to blue science.

[Xandor]

I did an all achievements run some months ago (although I didn't bother doing a few grindy and boring achievements).

Got Lazy Bastard (only allowed to handcraft a few items), Getting on Track like a pro (make train within 90 min) and There is no spoon (launch rocket within 8 hours) in the same game on my first try at doing it, with no blueprints and no pre-planning other than my knowledge of the game.

Both Lazy Bastard and Getting on Track like a pro slows you down a fair amount. (since you first aren't allowed to up your production early because of Lazy Bastard, then you need to beeline trains for Getting on Track like a pro)
I also got slowed down a lot because I didn't do enough circuit production, this was such a big bottleneck that it probably increased the time it took by 30% or more.

So it is pretty easy to launch a rocket within 8 hours, if you don't play on default settings.

Actually good players does it so much faster, but they tend to plan every step of the way and do many runs getting better at it and pick a good map.

Maxing out resources makes it so you only need to use the resources in your starting area to finish the achievement.
By maxing out your starting area so biters spawn far away allows you to almost ignore pollution and military research.

If you just use those 2 easier game settings then it should be no problem to get the achievement.
If you do it on default settings then it will be a real challenge that will take some planning.

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, if you have two hours you can watch a speedrun to find out how they did it.

[TooTall1]

Watching a roughly two hour speed run can be helpful, but they are usually without commentary in any useful way. If you are looking for someone that can show you helpful methodologies in achieving all of the achievements in ONE play through and explain what and why he is doing things as he is doing them, try this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jPbPfh8wYs&list=PLV3rF--heRVuDLb4Ei11BydUdVi_L1KFu
And it looks organized and pretty too :)

[Veter]

If you want do this achievment, just build build alot, ♥♥♥♥ ecosystem of this planet but produce alot of recouces, dont usedrones for basic resources, build huge powerplants and then build alot of beacons and fast module tier 1 and put in everthing, build walls and turrets and ammo in huge counts send them via belts to front line (constants fight on front lines in nearest 8 hours).

But before you do that, make some runs and make blueprints for productions chains.
Nain your problem is time - you must move, always, if you stay on one place few minuts - you lost this run.

p.s. i made 8 hour run in 6 hours with all recources set normal and not used rails at all, just used yellow double belts (pretty cheap).

[Budoray]

Originally posted by TooTall1:

Watching a roughly two hour speed run can be helpful, but they are usually without commentary in any useful way. If you are looking for someone that can show you helpful methodologies in achieving all of the achievements in ONE play through and explain what and why he is doing things as he is doing them, try this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jPbPfh8wYs&list=PLV3rF--heRVuDLb4Ei11BydUdVi_L1KFu
And it looks organized and pretty too :)

Great walkthrough!

[OmegaFreak01]

Watch how the speed runner manage to do it in less than 2 hours. They just fully embrace the mess, build over there resources. They don't have huge main busses or anything.

They go to the extreme where they have lots of blueprints ready and are allways manually crafting something but I could see a normal player taking double the amount of time 4(hours) just taking a breather and thinking about how to place there designs.

One more common thing is that people just blueprint a factory in a creative game then use that in the achievment game.

[Torham]

The way I did it is that I have done two runs on the same map. The first one was just planing out the base, getting familiar wit the map, and finding out any potential bottle necks. I finished that one in 10 hours. After that I have just blueprinted the whole factory into chronological sectors. On the second run I was basically just copying the blueprints, and I managed 6 hours run time.

I know that some consider blueprinting cheesy, but I do not like time sensitive achievements. I just don't like the pressure.

[Stryderunknown]

Speed runners tend to practice by nerfing the Pollution Diffusion rate to 0% so the pollution doesn't spread to nearby tiles. That's extremely handy if you are building quick and dirty, as long as no biter nests happen to be in the title where pollution is happening. Otherwise a trying to build at speed could lead to a whole lot of biters coming down on you quickly.

[Tad Ghostal]

I actually just completed this one today in 7:30:04. I did a multiplayer run with a co-worker and we were just building the entire time mostly. we have both played this game for years so we have a few of our favorite builds memorized, like modular green circuits, smelting, etc, but it was mostly a spaghetti build. We didn't do any planning or pre-basebuilding. just went at it and upped production wherever it was low at the time. I would recommend embracing the spaghetti, a lot of times we would build something and find out later that it wasn't ideal, not enough space for another belt we needed, in a normal game we would tear it up and move it, but in this one, it was just wrap the belt around this area and go....

[tom]

also, afaik, you can do it in multiplayer

[Fel]

You can, but you need to be on the server for most of the time that server is running (not a problem if you are hosting it and inviting a friend but potentially hard to do otherwise).

[rikkitikki]

LOL well I must be a total ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at this game then cause I don't think I got my first rocket launched until well after 200 hours (in a single game!), and even now, 3 + months into the game, it still takes me over 100 I'm sure. Not that I was ever going for speed per se, preferring instead to learn, explore, make mistakes, dismantle and rebuild things better, but if people are regularly getting their rockets off the ground in under 50 hours (much less 8 fer cryin out loud) then I am clearly doing something wrong. Kind of depressing for me, but hopefully by posting this it may make some of you others feel better about your games lol.

[Fel]

You are not doing anything "wong", your goal is just not "launch that rocket as soon as possible".

There is nothing wrong with taking your time and having fun with the game, those achievements are just there as potential challenges for those that want to show that they understand the game well enough to go through it with special rules (a timer, not using solar power, not using laser turrets, barely hand-crafting and so on).
Nothing really forces you to go through those hoops if you don't value those medals on your steam profile.

[rikkitikki]

Yeah yeah I know that's true in a philosophical way, but even so I was always at least A LITTLE concerned with reaching the objective "as fast as I could." So reading this thread and finding out I'm like in the brain damaged section of the class compared to most people was a little disheartening no matter how "wrong" it might be to think that way.

In my current game I DID set speed as a primary goal (not insane speed or anything, just to be more efficient than usual and spend less time worrying about stuff like killing every biter nest on the map). Even so, last I checked I was close to 50 hours and still don't have a rocket silo. (I will say that this time I have nice healthy circuit production but power is flickering in the yellow.. time to build a reactor then hopefully the silo).

I guess the silver lining here is that it awakened in me a new curiosity about the game. Namely, what the hell am I not understanding that is making me so slow? Time for some YouTube videos I guess.