Tips requested for a Angel/Bob/Pyanodons-Hi-Tech game

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Overeagerdragon has Factorio

Feb 9, 2019 @ 8:09am

Tips requested for a Angel/Bob/Pyanodons-Hi-Tech game

I've gone about building my base in several ways now to get a game with all 3 of title's modpacks included running but I'm out of my league (not ashamed to admit that with over 2K+hrs)

So I turn to the threads:
Anyone who can give me some tips on how to even begin producing science pack 4/Printed Substrate 3? It's not like I can't get it to work or anything; the problem is that Pyanodon has a habit of distilling raw goods SO far that by the time you reach this part of your factory you literally work in 0.00001's of goods per cycle so I'm having trouble manufacturing enough stuff like DMS or Allychloride without literally drowing in stuff like coke/carbon and other such side products. The result is that no matter how much I try to organise my build; eventually something somewhere clogs up; grinding everything to a halt with maybe 100 units of DMS produced.
Especially with the inclusion of Angel's it means you literally get SO much crystal geodes that I could pave my map 10 times over and still have enough left to mass produce refined gems, turrets, ammo and the highest tier modules.

Last edited by Overeagerdragon; Feb 9, 2019 @ 8:13am

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Originally posted by Nickjet45:

Your call has been answered
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/pyfunctionnal

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Peter

Feb 9, 2019 @ 12:12pm

Helmod? Helmod. Helmod is the answer, if you're looking for production chains.

Overeagerdragon has Factorio

Feb 9, 2019 @ 4:47pm

Does helmod do that? I thought helmod only did ratio calculations like "to get X ore you need Y smelters" not "to need X ore you need Y smelters and Z refineries to void the trace elements you produce in the process"

Nickjet45

Feb 9, 2019 @ 7:06pm

It tells you the amount of waste product you have and can help you calculate removal

Last edited by Nickjet45; Feb 9, 2019 @ 7:07pm

Name Lips

Feb 10, 2019 @ 9:50am

FNEI will tell you how to get stuff, or what products can be used for.

I found full pyanodon to be harder by itself than paired with Angel/bob. Angel in particular adds so many ways to make things that are easier than the pyanodon way, that you'll probably just end up with an angel base without realizing it.

Overeagerdragon has Factorio

Feb 10, 2019 @ 12:29pm

Originally posted by Name Lips:
FNEI will tell you how to get stuff, or what products can be used for.

I found full pyanodon to be harder by itself than paired with Angel/bob. Angel in particular adds so many ways to make things that are easier than the pyanodon way, that you'll probably just end up with an angel base without realizing it.

Like the title of my post says; I'm running Py-Hi-tech...not just Py. Though Metalurgical is handled by angel (mostly) and Chemical is handled by Bob (mostly) you will still need loads of Py-tech buildings to build the Py-hi-tech stuff like the deepdrills to get Nexelit, Phosphates, Niobium and the like and the py-smelters for stuff like Melanine and cyanic acids. So currently my base is a nice mix of production facilities between all three.

The problem arises (which the advised helmod doesn't cover nor doees FNEI) is not so much HOW to get certain stuff....that's easy enough...the problem lies that with Printed substrate 3, for example, you need 26 different production facilities to make it and (because of py) ALL of them produce "waste materials" (like coke or geodes for example) which means that by the time you have everything up and running and produce a nice amount of that what you were gunning for; you ALSO produce 50 different side-products.... some of which in such quantities that, if you're not carefull, you end up with thousands of in a matter of minutes. Sand, Crushed stone, coke, copper.... I've got dozens of warehouses full of the stuff with "nowhere" to go.

If I were to use to "put in a box and shoot it"-method; you're spending more time shooting warehouses into oblivion than actually fighting biters.

I had hoped veterans who play with all three of these mods had some tips on how to dump those excesses effectively but I guess people misunderstood the meaning of this thread and are, instead, giving me tips on how to GET the stuff I want instead of getting RID of excesses I DON'T want.