Factorio or Satisfactory ?

[DarkRod]

help me please :(

[AlexMBrennan]

Factorio would seem like the obvious answer given that you already own it.

[Geirfinna Lieselotte]

If you want a game that holds you hand, makes you walk on an already paved path and gives you no choice or liberty so you don't get lost, get Satisfactory
If you like to do whatever you want whenever you want and you like to use your brain, take Factorio

[Kutsuu Mugen]

Both games are worth getting into but Factorio is by far the better due to 5 years worth of development and mods to back it up, you also need to really think hard and plan how you want to build unless you have Blueprints setup then it makes things far easier.

Satisfactory is still new and has a long way to go, also has no mods atm nor does it have Blueprints, but still requires you to think abit on how you build but just in a 3D and First Person perspective.

You already own Factorio so I would continue with that unless there is something about Satisfactory that draws you in more then thats up to you.

[DarkRod]

Originally posted by Kutsuu Mugen:

Both games are worth getting into but Factorio is by far the better due to 5 years worth of development and mods to back it up, you also need to really think hard and plan how you want to build unless you have Blueprints setup then it makes things far easier.

Satisfactory is still new and has a long way to go, also has no mods atm nor does it have Blueprints, but still requires you to think abit on how you build but just in a 3D and First Person perspective.

You already own Factorio so I would continue with that unless there is something about Satisfactory that draws you in more then thats up to you.

i hate play with mods xD

[abcdif]

Originally posted by FR-DarkRod:

Originally posted by Kutsuu Mugen:

Both games are worth getting into but Factorio is by far the better due to 5 years worth of development and mods to back it up, you also need to really think hard and plan how you want to build unless you have Blueprints setup then it makes things far easier.

Satisfactory is still new and has a long way to go, also has no mods atm nor does it have Blueprints, but still requires you to think abit on how you build but just in a 3D and First Person perspective.

You already own Factorio so I would continue with that unless there is something about Satisfactory that draws you in more then thats up to you.

i hate play with mods xD

Vanilla game is enough for many thousands hours worth of gameplay, satisfactory will get boring and tedious in <100 hours.

[abcdif]

And, I forgot to mention, satisfactory is for casuals.

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by abcdif:

And, I forgot to mention, satisfactory is for casuals.

This ^

I have been playing Factorio for a long time and love it. I tried Satisfactory and was vastly disappointed.

[benai]

I like both games and i wasnt aware that i actually like this genre.
Factorio is good with Mods from DellAquila, Bob, Angel, Schallfalke and so on. Which adds new structures, content and higher enemies. Without it i find it more annoying.
Best mods so far for me Bio Industries, TreeFarm Lite, Unit Control and AAI Vehicle Control plus many others.

[AlexMBrennan]

i hate play with mods xD

Then don't? Who is forcing you play with Bob's mod?

[BladeofSharpness]

Given the team behind factorio has worked 5 years optimizing the code without to spend just too much time on a pretty 3D engine, it is a sure bet that Factorio can be much more epic than Satisfactory.

[andreykl]

Seems like two entirely different games to me with commonish theme. A lot like Fallout 2 vs Fallout 3

Factorio is all around automation to the point where you can automate automation. Since early game you can and have to automate amounts of resources that won't even fit in your inventory. As someone in similar topic said, factorio is a lot about solving bottlenecks and you can scale up production a lot... In factorio most of progression is either about alternate ways to automate or about ways to defend from bitters.

Satisfactory is much more exploration based. Has much lower scale and is less industrial based. Progression is less diverse and concentrates on slowly going from manual production to automation with couple upgrades to player.

Example, Mining: in factorio you first miner immediately can output to conveyor and you do not need to research it. In Satisfactory it is a 'portable' miner that you have to empty manually and you have to research it first by gathering and crafting some resources.

Example, Power: In factorio it is entirely automatable since early game and lasts you almost forever - you place a mine and conveyor coal to boiler since early start without need to research anything e t c... In satisfactory early power is not available, you do some research, then HQ pops up one generator and you can't place more, instead you have to research again. And when you research first placeable generator, it is not automatable - you have to input fuel manually. Mid/late game generator can be automated with coal, but even then whole power system is still not entirely automatable - if you have a centralized power grid, a single generator running out of fuel forces player to deconstruct at least some wires to restart it.

But perhaps the best example is conveyor: Conveyor in factorio is independent from machines - it just works and inserters either pick or put items onto it. You want more inputs/output for machine? You add more inserters and conveyors. And additionally they provide control, like: You want one machine to be prioritized? You place a splitter and say that it should favor one side. the most basic one transports 16 items per second while early machines rarely output more then 2 items per second.
In satisfactory, it is start to end belt, from machine to machine. If your machine can output more then conveyor can handle you can do nothing about it (there are higher tier conveyors) Want to merge output of couple mines together? Sorry, not possible, some mines output 120 units per minute on their own, unboosted, and basic conveyor handles 60 per minute, tier 2 - 120. At best single conveyor can handle one mine. Splitting and merging output of conveyors is possible, but that's it.

On another hand in factorio you can win game almost without exploring - radar will do it for you, in Satisfactory exploration is vital - there are various points of interest like caves, isolated places with rare resources, crashed orbital transports, floara and fauna to collect and study...

[Ambrsale]

More complex answer is:
1. Satisfactory is just started its alpha, so it`s lack of content, compared to Factorio.
2. Automation in Factorio is much better than almost no automation in satisfactory now. Blueprints and robots is a great thing in Factorio, and I miss it in Satisfactory. And so, any big factory creation is all manual in satisfactory. You cant build one factory and EASILY copy it.

So mine thoughts are:
Satisfactory - beautiful 3d project, having big potential
Factorio - deep 2d project still in development with a lot content and nice automation

[Ambrsale]

And end of research tree in Satisfactory is like an endgame now. You just have nothing to do after all researches are done. All your factories just stops with full stocks, because you can`t do nothing with all these produced materials.
In Factorio you can endless research techs, constantly emproving your factory. You never can have "enough producing rate of something" in Factorio :-)

[andreykl]

Originally posted by Ambrsale:

Satisfactory is just started its alpha, so it`s lack of content, compared to Factorio.

Wiki has missing tech tree listed, so even 'full' it won't be that impressive automation wise (aparently everything is ready and at balancing/finetuning/bugfixing stage). Satisfactory simply leans onto exploration+beauty more then automation.

[DarkFire]

One thing that I feel Factorio could benefit from is the to-do list system that Satisfactory has. I've never seen such as good to-do list in a game before.