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Crestfall Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:03am
Are copper cable main bus worthy? Are gears main bus worthy too?
Title.
Last edited by Crestfall; Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:17am
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KatherineOfSky Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:04am 
Nope. Their ratio is inefficient. For 1 belt of copper plates on the bus, you would need to have 2 belts of cable. Best to make them locally.
Jupiter3927 Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:05am 
Not really since green chips are much more useful and use copper cables.
You can create a bus for just creating green chips or any chips and put copper cable on it no problem.
Crestfall Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:14am 
How about gears?
AlexMBrennan Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:20am 
Gears take 2 iron plates and are required in large quantities so it would make sense to process iron into gears as soon as possible.
Crestfall Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:20am 
Ok, I'm in the right step here.
Kronos Nov 21, 2018 @ 9:34am 
It has nothing to do with what I'm looking for.
Originally posted by Senpai-kun:
Absolutely everything goes on the main bus.

Including fish.
I can't believe that I have completely neglected bussing fish! How did I ever manage to survive?
Crestfall Nov 22, 2018 @ 3:56am 
Can bots mine fishes?

wube let automate fish pls
Last edited by Crestfall; Nov 22, 2018 @ 3:58am
impetus_maximus Nov 22, 2018 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by Crestfall:
Can bots mine fishes?

wube let automate fish pls
mark them for deconstruction. ;)
Maelstrom Nov 22, 2018 @ 11:12am 
I don't bus either. Copper cable because it actually de-compresses your copper plates - 1 copper plate makes 2 cables.

Iron gear wheels I thought about but it's just easier to bus iron plates and make gear wheels as needed. Certain items (like blue belts) consume enormous amounts of gear wheels when they're being produced but once your output chest is full the demand drops to 0. It's a massive hassle to plan around but isn't an issue if you have a short belt of gear wheels that only moves when production is going.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1571307038
This little setup will produce and consume 1 full belt of iron gear wheels when blue belts are being produced. When idle it doesn't consume any extra bus space because the gear wheels aren't on the bus.
Last edited by Maelstrom; Nov 22, 2018 @ 11:17am
robert225 Nov 22, 2018 @ 12:46pm 
There are a lot of items that require both Iron Plates and Gears, which is what makes the "Mall" a decent design choice. With this, it is ideal to produce huge quantities of Gears on site, and put them on the internal bus of the Mall only.

Without the Mall, having both Gears and Plates on the bus means that every site that needs both (which will be most of them) needs twice as many splitters / undergrounds coming off the bus to feed them.

My preference is to not bus gears.

The vast majority of Copper Cables goes into circuits, so it makes little sense not to just make them locally.
Last edited by robert225; Nov 22, 2018 @ 12:47pm
AlexMBrennan Nov 22, 2018 @ 1:07pm 
Iron gear wheels I thought about but it's just easier to bus iron plates and make gear wheels as needed
All science packs except high tech require gears so there will always be a constant highly predictable demand but you are, of course, free to run 2N iron plate belts from the smelter to the science production lines instead of 1N gear belts.

Without the Mall, having both Gears and Plates on the bus means that every site that needs both (which will be most of them) needs twice as many splitters / undergrounds coming off the bus to feed them.
No. The minimum number of splitters required is higher (at least two, instead of at least one), but obviously you will be able to supply far fewer assemblers.

For example, if your assemblers use one full belt of gears and one full belt of iron plates then the putting gears on the bus will let you get by with 2 splitters while your "cheaper" solution will require 3 splitters because you need 3 full iron belts.
Last edited by AlexMBrennan; Nov 22, 2018 @ 1:14pm
Pyrrhus Nov 23, 2018 @ 5:17pm 
Copper cables are worth it on 4 betls for red chips but not green chips. My green chip assemblers are right next to copper cable assemblers. 2 copper cable assemblers per green chip assembler, that works well.
Mike Nov 25, 2018 @ 11:47pm 
I always create the copper cables where their needed down path due to their "expanding" ratio, i do that with most things. My advice - Aim for compression items on a bus IE where more resources are needed than is produced in absolute numbers and with "decompressed" goods make them on site - IE where the output is greater than input per cycle. And im talking about the often used items here... not the infrequent onces or that bus will be so wide it would take a year to run from end to end =)
Last edited by Mike; Nov 25, 2018 @ 11:50pm
Mr. Fibble Nov 27, 2018 @ 7:04am 
Anything can be bussed if you want it to be, games a sandbox so there's no rule that says otherwise.

Depends if you're aiming for efficiency, looks, layout or whatever.

For cables and gears I tend to bus in the plates and make them locally to the assemblers that are needing them for other things. My approach is mainly because if its sat on the bus it's not going to be used as fast and potentially you could end up using iron or copper you want elsewhere.
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