Is it just me or blueprints ruins all my fun for the game

[MarcNote]

Been playing the older version of factorio back in 2016, completing the game without blueprint, lot of fun. Now Its like, there is nothing to create anymore, nothing to be pround of. I feel like following a bunch of instruction. Please avoid "just dont use blueprint" comments.... Blueprint existed but it needed to be created before used. Now I feel like that you just have to use those optimal blueprint from other players...Update Thanks for the replies, I must say the usage of blueprint without robotport is what I really dislike. Sometimes I use blueprint for solar panel placement.

[KatherineOfSky]

Why do you use blueprints from others? If it is unfun for you, then it's you who needs to make the choice not to use them. Even in 2016, there was a mod that allowed people to share blueprints.

Blueprints are a tool in the game, and an OPTION. They are not required.

[Nailfoot]

I just lost all of my BPs due to an oversight. So, now I have to remake them. No big deal though. And it is still really fun. My BPs are never 100% optimized so I'm always twaeking them anyway!

[Mechanical]

With blueprints, you shift from the micro scale to the macro scale. Where before you played down factories, belts and inserters. Now you place complexes, track, and load/unload stations. At this point the arrangement of the factories and what modules are inside them is as important as placing inidivual belt pieces before blueprints. Now you meassure progress in how many hundreds of ship launches and number tick of unlimited research.

[Nickjet45]

Like Katherine said

It’s up to you to use others bp
If you found fun in not using bps then create your own or don’t but they’re definitely not taking away from the experience of factorio

[Maelstrom]

I only use my own blueprints.

Factorio isn't an MMORPG where you have to play 100% optimally 100% of the time or get left behind. A big part of the game for me is experimenting and finding new and unique ways to do things.

[Tritoch]

I mean, you say to please avoid "just dont use blueprint" comments but there's really no other response here. You have to go out of your way to look up, copy the blueprint string and import it into the game. Just don't go through that process.

I don't use blueprints outside of the ones I've created, and if I need to learn how to optomize something better I'd rather create it myself using a tutorial or youtube video rather than just import a blueprint so that I know exactly how it works.

[Horoai]

TheSOSCookies lähetti viestin:

Been playing the older version of factorio back in 2016, completing the game without blueprint, lot of fun. Now Its like, there is nothing to create anymore, nothing to be pround of. I feel like following a bunch of instruction. Please avoid "just dont use blueprint" comments.... Blueprint existed but it needed to be created before used. Now I feel like that you just have to use those optimal blueprint from other players...

So other players spend houndreds of hours making a solid blueprint book means you MUST use them instead of creating your own?
Do you also have to use game wikis and spoil every little explorational detail before you play yourself?
Do you also have to use cheat engines just because they exist?

"Please avoid "just dont use blueprint" comments"
Why do people make threads asking for things they already know the answer to and then don't allow this answer?

[Zorz]

JazzWorthy lähetti viestin:

I mean, you say to please avoid "just dont use blueprint" comments but there's really no other response here. You have to go out of your way to look up, copy the blueprint string and import it into the game. Just don't go through that process.

I don't use blueprints outside of the ones I've created, and if I need to learn how to optomize something better I'd rather create it myself using a tutorial or youtube video rather than just import a blueprint so that I know exactly how it works.

if u play vs. another player which use BP then u have lost the round befor it began if u say i don't use it. i don't wanna say that u can't win, it can be a challange too. but let us be realistic, if both are skilled and just the one player don't use his bp, then the chances to win are different.

same if u play multiplayer, u want to start to build up something.. 1 minute later someone come to you and just place a blueprint there what is differenet from your plan.. now u have to delete his BP and write this player what is your plan, because u don't have an own BP.. ^^

or stupit players use BP for his rails.. if u can see that someone use BP for each curve, i know that i have to trigger the delete button, because mostly it is nonsense to use BP for railroads in multiplayer specially if u don't have bots. i think just noobs use BP for railroads.

and to OP, i had feel the same in the past. after i realized that BP is a must in this game i joned some multiplayer servers to look for good construction for BP. mostly u have to edit the BP or have to change it a little bit, but yes it's annoying that u are forced to use BP, but yes it can be fun too to create it and use it. so i know what u feel, maybe it will change after u got some good BP

[Horoai]

Zorz your comments about the game are so wildely off mark in every thread I have to wonder if you're sure you're in the right game's forum at this point.

[Zorz]

Yggdrasil lähetti viestin:

Zorz your comments about the game are so wildely off mark in every thread I have to wonder if you're sure you're in the right game's forum at this point.

2 or 3 threads are not all..

u just ignore the point of OP and u simply don't understand why OP opens the thread. u can't feel the problem. maybe u played factorio for to long that u don't know your first times or u had different feelings about the first time u realized BP..

but simply to say that somebody plays the wrong game if he doesn't feel like u in relation to a specific thing is a little bit meh.. ;)

i forgot to say that BP can make fun in endgame and save time in endgame too, but mostly the round/ the game is over after bots are avaible. maybe thats not a fact if u play alone and 500hours longer then needed in SP ^^

[pat]

When I first started playing, I used others' blueprints a lot. What I got most from it was learning techniques that weren't intuitively obvious to me. Simple things, like being able to take/put items to/from an underground belt. Up till I saw it in a blueprint, I thought you could only use regular above ground belts. I also learned belt braiding from blueprints, as well as several other techniques that hadn't occurred to me.

These days, I don't use others' BPs. I generally want something very specific, and I probably can't find it in the BP database.

TheSOSCookies lähetti viestin:

Please avoid "just dont use blueprint" comments....

How can anyone avoid that? It's like the ancient joke, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." One of the great things about this game is you can play it however you'd like. Some love fighting biters. Me. .. I turned them off the moment I learned how to.

But to come in and say that BPs ruin the game, well it's as foolish as me saying that biters ruin the game. And to be honest, your post sounds a little troll-ey.

[Nailfoot]

Zorz lähetti viestin:

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or stupit players use BP for his rails.. if u can see that someone use BP for each curve, i know that i have to trigger the delete button, because mostly it is nonsense to use BP for railroads in multiplayer specially if u don't have bots. i think just noobs use BP for railroads.

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Hmmm. This isn't true at all. Rail BPs are perhaps the most used in the game. Why would I manually build a track system to that far-away outpost when I can lay it down with BPs, which will include power and data lines?

Also I can build the track while I am enroute on the train. Also, also, my rail BPs are on a perfect grid so everything is always lined up the way I like. Also, also, also, I don't have to remember how to build a roundabout at every junction, of which I always have a lot.

[Khadgarion]

I like to use blueprints for reorganizing my base, makes it way easier to make construction bots remove everything and put it all back up somewhere else :)

[AlabasterSXS]

I have never used other's blueprints. The only bp I used for a long time were rudimentery paterns, and it wasnt until my 400 hour mark when I began large 2000+ piece bp.

Abstaining from blueprints in multiplayer is a great way to get chips and ye ole tool shoppe very quickly and cheaply. Underground belts are very expensive.

[Zorz]

Nailfoot lähetti viestin:

Hmmm. This isn't true at all. Rail BPs are perhaps the most used in the game. Why would I manually build a track system to that far-away outpost when I can lay it down with BPs, which will include power and data lines?

Also I can build the track while I am enroute on the train. Also, also, my rail BPs are on a perfect grid so everything is always lined up the way I like. Also, also, also, I don't have to remember how to build a roundabout at every junction, of which I always have a lot.

thats why i wrote specialy if u don't have bots ^^