what happened to setting stack size of inserters? [NOTHING/SOLVED]

[impetus_maximus]

i just updated from 0.17.52 to 0.17.58. now my smelting layouts are broken.
now we need a circuit signal?

[Fel]

You might need to include more informations about what used to work and doesn't anymore.

Non-stack inserters still take 1 to 3 depending on research, and you can still tick the "overwrite stack size" by opening the inserter's GUI without having to use circuit, as far as I can tell it works like it used to but I might have missed a small detail that would be what broke your smelting layout.

[impetus_maximus]

using 'set stack size' now opens a 'control signal' option. i can no longer set a stack size of an inserter by itself.

[Fel]

"overwrite stack size" is the option to input a fixed number that is present regardless of circuit network or not, it unlocks the box on the right of it to let you input a number from 1 to the max you can at the time.

"set stack size" is only available if the inserter is linked to a circuit network by a wire and does require a "control signal" to set the number (I don't know about 0.17.52 but it's exactly the same in 0.17.58 and 0.16.51 so if it was different in 0.17.52 it was probably a bug of some sort).
You usually use either a signal from a constant or from an item in a chest somewhere.

I did a quick check of the changelogs and I couldn't find a bug being fixed related to these either so I'm not sure what is happening to you but if you are using "set stack size" it means you are doing that in the circuit network box on the right of the "main" GUI for the inserter.

[impetus_maximus]

my smelting uses a wire connecting the inserter loading the smelter, and the inserter removing the iron/copper. i use to be able to set the stack size of each. now i can't and it's really frustrating to have this feature removed.

[Fel]

I'm downloading 0.17.52 right now to see for myself because I don't understand your problem.

Just so we are clear on what you are trying to do, do you want to set a specific number individually to each inserter (that might be different for some inserters), do you want to set all of them without question to a specific value and only have to go to one place to change the value for all of them, or do you want them to get a value that will change by itself through the use of the circuit network?

(maybe a screenshot or an explanation would be nice because I am completely lost)
If you want to set a static number you don't need the circuit network's "set stack size" but the default GUI's "overwrite stack size", everything related to circuit network (other than comparison where it allows you to set a "constant" without having to use a signal from the network) is based on signals.

[impetus_maximus]

i set the interters loading the furnaces to a stack size of 1, enable condition 'if *everything = 0. the inserter taking the iron/copper out to read hand contents to hold. this keeps them from filling up while the output belt is full.

[edit]one wire for each pair.

[Fel]

In this case it's definitely the "overwrite stack size" that you want to use and not the "set stack size".
I just checked in 0.17.52 and it was exactly the same, "set stack size" also opens a "control signal" option at the bottom to set the stack size without any option to set a constant in there directly.

You might have used something else relative to signal networks between the last time you set that up and now or you had a mod that somehow changed how it worked (I don't think it's even possible but I don't know all of the mods after all).

[impetus_maximus]

overwrite stack size is not an option.
https://imgur.com/a/1bkiXJx

[impetus_maximus]

never mind. my stack size was not researched in this save.

[Fel]

I'm really not sure if it is a mod that is removing it or if it is that mode where everything is with squares in the background (I keep seeing this but I have no clue how you guys access it).

Here is how the inserter GUI looks for me (no mod, and it is exactly the same in 0.17.52, 0.17.58 and 0.16.51):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1811444123

EDIT: oh, that makes more sense, I was trying to dig out what mod could be doing this.

[impetus_maximus]

thanks for your help. sorry, it was a senior moment on my part.

[impetus_maximus]

Originally posted by Fel:

EDIT: oh, that makes more sense, I was trying to dig out what mod could be doing this.

i use creative mode mod which can change stack size bonuses. that wasn't the issue though. this lab/testing save just doesn't have any standard/fast inserter stack size bonuses.

again, thanks for your help. it's much appreciated!