Can you use Portable Solar Panels for the "Steam All the Way" Achievement?

[GamePil]

It sais "building" but i dont know if that means crafting or placing

[Haron]

you can craft them safely, only placing the building on the ground counts against that achievement

[Fel]

"Building" is when you or your robots place something on the map, they standardized the vocabulary used since before it was a bit all over the place.
You can craft as many solar pannels you want as long as you never "build" them.

A quick way to test it is to save the game before you craft and put your portable solar panels in your power armour.
Once that is done you can check the achievements availability (one of the buttons under the mini map) and it will tell you about all of the achievement and if you can still get them on the current map or not (so the "steam all the way" should still be possible at that point).
If you find out that somehow it disables the achievement you can always reload the save (and check the achievement availability there because it might have been something else from before that would have disabled it).

[impetus_maximus]

the achievement will die if you put a solar panel on the ground AND it produces power. you can safely use portable solar in your suit.

[Buon Tia]

I can confirm you can "craft" solar panels safely. I just finished the game with many solar panels made but not a single one placed on the ground and I still got the achievement.

[Numbers]

Yes you can. I just did it a week or 2 ago. Don't place any solar panels on the ground and you're good to do anything else you want, including portable ones.

[qojnopufu]

You can also go to the achievements in game and start tracking one. The status will be displayed in the corner of the UI, so you will notice any change in it's state right away.

[Biometrix]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GamePil:

It sais "building" but i dont know if that means crafting or placing

The game would be unbeatable and thus the achievement impossible if this were true, because Satellites require Solar Panels.

[GamePil]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Biometrix:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GamePil:

It sais "building" but i dont know if that means crafting or placing

The game would be unbeatable and thus the achievement impossible if this were true, because Satellites require Solar Panels.

I didn't even think of that

[luziferius]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Biometrix:

The game would be unbeatable and thus the achievement impossible if this were true, because Satellites require Solar Panels.

Technically not true any more. Crafting and putting a satellite into the rocket is no longer a requirement. Other than that, a very good argument.

See »Freeplay victory condition« at the bottom of FFF #275: https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-275

[Biometrix]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von luziferius:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Biometrix:

The game would be unbeatable and thus the achievement impossible if this were true, because Satellites require Solar Panels.

Technically not true any more. Crafting and putting a satellite into the rocket is no longer a requirement. Other than that, a very good argument.

See »Freeplay victory condition« at the bottom of FFF #275: https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-275

Oh? They changed it? My apologies. I should have read that part of that FFF. Thanks for pointing that out.

[luziferius]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Biometrix:

My apologies.

No need to. ;) It is quite hidden at the end of such a wall of text. The achivement is older than that change, so in this case, your argument is still valid.

If you want to do the speedrun achievements, not building the satellite can be a huge time saver.

[Fel]

Especially since you can put the fish in the first rocket and get that achievement as well (if you are running a 100% speedrun).