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piper.spirit 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 9:06
Potential Solar Power Glitch?
This may be a glitch or it may be my stupidity for being new to the game.

I built a bunch of solar panels but noticed it wasn't having too much of an effect on my power output. I investigated and noticed I was connecting them to the network through accumulators eg they had no direct link to the network. I then connected the solar plants directly to the network via electric poles and i had a big surge in power.

Is this meant to be like this, or could this be a glitch that has to be corrected? Or it could just be I am missing something being my 1st playthrough on the game.
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Fel 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 9:16 
I am having a hard time understading what "connecting them to the network through accumulators" means.

A single accumulator has enough input/output to match 5 solar pannels, and because you need more accumulator per solar pannel to get through the night it shouldn't be a problem in that sense.

EDIT: nevermind I saw a picture about it on the wiki, you might want to share how you did yours.
最後修改者:Fel; 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 9:18
deathmoon 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 9:17 
It depends on "how" you connected your solar panels.
One accumulator (or just how many you used) can transfer only as much energy.
If you put 100 solar panels on one power grid with 1 akkumulator, it will only 300kW of Energy to flow through.

Another point is the supply Priority. Solar panels try to run whenever the sun is there. Steam engines will fill as much as possible of the remaining power usage. Last in the order, as a form of emergency storage, the accumulators will give their power to the system.

It may help to read the following artikle: https://wiki.factorio.com/Accumulator
最後修改者:deathmoon; 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 9:18
piper.spirit 2019 年 11 月 6 日 下午 1:14 
引用自 Fel
I am having a hard time understading what "connecting them to the network through accumulators" means.

A single accumulator has enough input/output to match 5 solar pannels, and because you need more accumulator per solar pannel to get through the night it shouldn't be a problem in that sense.

EDIT: nevermind I saw a picture about it on the wiki, you might want to share how you did yours.

In a nutshell solar panels connected to accumulators, and only the accumulators connect to the actual electricity network. It appears accumulators are only able to transfer so much power hence why adding more solar panels to my plants was futile. Like the more solar panels I added was pointless because the power generated was higher than what the accumulators could handle.
最後修改者:piper.spirit; 2019 年 11 月 6 日 下午 1:15
Fel 2019 年 11 月 6 日 下午 1:22 
It tells you about the transfer rate, both in item form and in the info tooltip on the map, the input and output are at 300kW (and with the solar pannels outputting 60kW during the day it is why I said 1 for 5).

This is why this method is more like a fun toy for very specific cases (to make sure a part of your network has higher priority mostly) but it takes an incredible amount of space when you want to scale it up for a full base's power generation.
Peter 2019 年 11 月 6 日 下午 2:46 
引用自 |CoH|-piper
In a nutshell solar panels connected to accumulators, and only the accumulators connect to the actual electricity network. It appears accumulators are only able to transfer so much power hence why adding more solar panels to my plants was futile. Like the more solar panels I added was pointless because the power generated was higher than what the accumulators could handle.

You're going to want to go back and rebuild your solar setup. The panels and the accumulators should both be part of the power grid, at a ratio of 21 accumulators to 25 panels (if you want to go max efficiency). And for every 21 accumulators and 25 panels you will get slightly over 1MW of power constantly and consistently.
The_Pastmaster 2019 年 11 月 7 日 上午 1:03 
引用自 Peter
引用自 |CoH|-piper
In a nutshell solar panels connected to accumulators, and only the accumulators connect to the actual electricity network. It appears accumulators are only able to transfer so much power hence why adding more solar panels to my plants was futile. Like the more solar panels I added was pointless because the power generated was higher than what the accumulators could handle.

You're going to want to go back and rebuild your solar setup. The panels and the accumulators should both be part of the power grid, at a ratio of 21 accumulators to 25 panels (if you want to go max efficiency). And for every 21 accumulators and 25 panels you will get slightly over 1MW of power constantly and consistently.

Huh, I may want to rethink my boiler only policy.
Xelephant 2019 年 11 月 7 日 上午 2:34 
That Ratio is only for perfect energy consumtion don't need to pay attation to that at all. For performance its better to have one huge energy network, many small ones impact ups at some point.
astrosha 2019 年 11 月 7 日 上午 3:27 
Its worth paying attention to the ratio just long enough to make a blueprint that is "kind of close" ... then just spam that blueprint around as much as possible.

Once you have that BP, its not something you need consider again ...
THE kilroy 2019 年 11 月 7 日 上午 4:51 
Electricity is handled per network. So having 2 networks with an acumulator in between them(as part of both) is different than 1 network with an acumulator to share.

So you have 1 network with steam powering probably all including charging the accumultor. And another network only changing during the day the accumultor if its not already fully charged.

It is an intended behavior. Since you are new ill bet you just want to connect the solar into your network.



If you want to start trying extra coolness. You should know steam produces power before solar but if you are trying to use steam as a secondary source of power, isolate steam on its own network and "connect" it to main network with a "power switch" using copper wire. This can allow you to switch steam on and off manually, but since you probably want to automate(cause factorio) you could link it with a curcuit network to any an accumultor (in main network) with a red or green wire and have the power switch enabled when accumultor hits a certain level. You might have to Google for a tut on that but.

Sorry for the technical vomit (especially if you are too new for it), probably just actually join networks.
piper.spirit 2019 年 11 月 7 日 上午 5:26 
I see the usefulness in the ability of separating accumulators from the network, but I wasn't aware of the feature until reading this thread and looking at the wiki page. I mainly came across it by mistake, and indeed, I simply just wanted to connect my solar panels to the main network.

I made my solar power/accumulators set up like this because I was running a rail network through and it separated both. My main production base is strategically placed in a bottleneck beside water for extra defence and I placed my solar energy systems here because I figured they were best protected. One of the 1st things I did in the game was plan out my rail network so it was scalable for future expansion.

The base is almost entirely run using a massive solar power system. Accumulators for night time with a backup steam generator system in case anything goes wrong. I currently just launched my 1st rocket; everything is automated except ammo refills for my outer perimeter defences. The combo of turrets, walls and mines appears to be working for now, but I get the feeling they will soon need to be strengthened against the long range enemies.

I guess the plan now is to research all the technologies and build the tank:D
THE kilroy 2019 年 11 月 7 日 上午 11:23 
Oooooooh rockets are fun. Glad to know you got solar with backup setup.
AlexMBrennan 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 12:44 
A single accumulator has enough input/output to match 5 solar pannels, and because you need more accumulator per solar pannel to get through the night it shouldn't be a problem in that sense.
There are two important problems here:

1) accumulator power is used last, i.e. after solar and steam power, so the energy stored during the day will never be used (during the day solar power can be used to charge accumulators but consumers will prefer to use steam power before touching the accumulators)

2) accumulators are in the same network as the steam engines so you will be burning coal to charge the accumulators even if through some miracle accumulators were discharged.

This isn't the way to solve whatever problem you are trying to solve.
最後修改者:AlexMBrennan; 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 12:45
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