boilers on 1.0

[chuckles]

i have no idea what im doing worng i have 10 boilers and 20 pumps and then like 36 engins going. it was working with 200 steam then i come back and all the boilers are at 1.0 and ive lots a heap of power anyone help???

[MisterSpock]

1. having only 1.0 Steam doesnt mean its not a good design. Maybe they suck up a bit more steam than you produce.

2. The perfect ratios are: 1 Pump, 20 Boilers, 40 Steamengines

3. Give us a screenshot.

[Nailfoot]

Here's an example of how steam power can be done. I'm sorry I forgot to turn off the "steam" effects before I took this shot!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=913670050

Note that there are 20 boilers and 40 steam engines. The very top row that is cut off at the top of the picture is connected to another boiler array, not this one.

[fractalgem]

1. Boilers got reworked for .15

2. Please read the sticky.

3. press left alt; take a screenshot.

[chuckles]

ive read it already but was confused how to set it up but i got it now thanks to Nailfoot

[Nailfoot]

Originally posted by Nasus:

ive read it already but was confused how to set it up but i got it now thanks to Nailfoot

You're welcome

:)

[Leberwurst]

many people say:

perfect ratio is 1 Pump, 20 Boilers, 40 Steamengines

but how to get this information in the game? i cant find tooltips or informations. its just learning by doing?

[MisterSpock]

Originally posted by Peter Pervers:

many people say:

perfect ratio is 1 Pump, 20 Boilers, 40 Steamengines

but how to get this information in the game? i cant find tooltips or informations. its just learning by doing?

You calculate it. Except the Pump, which have to be measured.

[Chatastroph]

you can calculate the pumps too. you know how much a steam engine needs and how much a water pump produces.
so it's basicly water pump production divided by the steam engine consumption.

[BitterSwede]

Originally posted by Peter Pervers:

many people say:

perfect ratio is 1 Pump, 20 Boilers, 40 Steamengines

but how to get this information in the game? i cant find tooltips or informations. its just learning by doing?

In the tooltip it will tell you what each machine produce, what it consumes and how much it can output at once. Using that information we can see that one boiler can produce and output exactly twice what a boiler can consume.

As for the offshore pump, it produces 1 200 units of water. A boiler converts 1 unit of water into 1 unit of steam. Knowing that the boiler outputs 60 units of steam per second, we can then assume one boiler takes 60 units of water per second, giving us the base for our calculation: 1200 / 60 = 20, so 20 boilers per pump. Since we know, from the ingame tooltip, that a steam engine require 30 steam per second, we now know that we can support 20 boilers and 40 engines on one pump.

Using only the ingame information, you can also calculate how much fuel you'll need, if you don't want to do like most people and just overflow the belts with fuel and hope for the best.

Efficiency of a boiler is 50%, meaning you need twice as much energy in as you get out.
1 unit of steam requires 30kJ of energy to produce and will give you 15kJ of energy from the steam engines.
1W is 1J/s.
So if your base require 1MW you need to produce 1MJ per second. That is 66.66(...) (1 000 000 / 15 000) steam units per second, so a little more than one boiler. Since boilers are smart and only consume as much fuel as they need, we can count with fractions here.
We know we need twice as much energy in as we get out, so we will need 133.33(...) kJ of energy in.
The lowest you can possibly get is the Wood Plank at 2MJ, then Raw Wood at 4MJ. Coal has 8MJ, Solid Fuel is 25MJ and Rocket Fuel gives 225MJ.

So using the easiest solution, which is coal (since it's automatable and abundant), we know we'll need 2 boilers, 3 steam engines and 2 units of coal to get the base operational. Those 2 units of coal will last for 1 minute (1 000 000 / 133 333).

It may look imposing, but it's not really that complicated. It's just division all the way.
A / B = C, where A is what you need, B is what you get and C is what is produced. Look back and you can see that formula is the only formula I've used here.

I hope that helps :)