Fluid wagon filling slowly, how to fix?

[aub]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1132419136

This is my first time using a fluid wagon, and I'm not familiar with liquid dynamics. How can I increase the fill rate?

[KatherineOfSky]

Moved back to New Players & Game Help.

Pumps move liquid at the same rate as the throughput of pipes, so connecting independent pipes should speed up the process.

[aub]

Originally posted by KatherineOfSky:

Moved back to New Players & Game Help.

Pumps move liquid at the same rate as the throughput of pipes, so connecting independent pipes should speed up the process.

So, for instance, use twice as many pumps plus six independent pipes?

[KatherineOfSky]

Only three pumps can connect to a wagon at once, So three pumps with 1 pipe each.

[aub]

Originally posted by KatherineOfSky:

Only three pumps can connect to a wagon at once, So three pumps with 1 pipe each.

I don't know if you can see the screenshot, but that's the setup I have now.

[Lawlzer]

Originally posted by The End is Neigh:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1132419136

This is my first time using a fluid wagon, and I'm not familiar with liquid dynamics. How can I increase the fill rate?

My guess is that it's not enough oil in the pipes.. Look at your pipes and check the number of how much oil is in the pipes. If it's 9-10, that means it's being limited by throughput / amount of pipes and pumps, if it's under that it means it's flowing freely.

[still__alive]

Couldn't he connect another 3 pumps on the other side of the wagon if the station didn't have the train stopped on the junction?

Edit: And maybe you don't have enough oil flowing to fill the wagon any faster than it currently is? Mouse over the pipes and pumps and see if they are pumping at maximum capacity.

[Lady Naween]

Put a tank to fill with the oil, then the pump directly to the tank into the wagon. You are being slowed down by the pipe and pumps. You have to sit and wait for the pumpjacks to pull the oil from the ground and then through the pipe.

[KatherineOfSky]

Originally posted by The End is Neigh:

Originally posted by KatherineOfSky:

Only three pumps can connect to a wagon at once, So three pumps with 1 pipe each.

I don't know if you can see the screenshot, but that's the setup I have now.

Your setup has 3 pumps connected with a single pipe. Each pump needs to have a separate pipe linked to the source (e.g. tanks, etc.)

Also, as others have mentioned, make sure you have enough oil throughput.

[Teh Freek]

Use the same layout as offloading, but turn the pumps around.

[Warlord]

Nobody mentioned this yet, but those pumpjacks are not going to be anywhere NEAR able to produce enough oil to quickly fill that fluid wagon. These wagons hold, I think, 75K oil (the same amount as three fluid tanks). Since pumpjacks produce somewhere between 3 and 15 oil per second, they will take ages to fill that train.

And since pipes won't hold that much, your pumpjacks will actually shut down from their output being full while the train moves the oil back to base. To make sure they run all the time, use at LEAST 3 tanks of storage, that way at best you can already have the 75K oil the train can hold ready to pump onto a train. At this point, you can optimize oil flowing through pipes into pumps then into the train, but that won't save you a lot of time.

[Lawlzer]

Originally posted by Warlord:

Nobody mentioned this yet, but those pumpjacks are not going to be anywhere NEAR able to produce enough oil to quickly fill that fluid wagon.

Originally posted by KatherineOfSky:

Originally posted by The End is Neigh:

Also, as others have mentioned, make sure you have enough oil throughput.

Originally posted by still__alive:

Edit: And maybe you don't have enough oil flowing to fill the wagon any faster than it currently is? Mouse over the pipes and pumps and see if they are pumping at maximum capacity.

Originally posted by Lawlzer:

Originally posted by The End is Neigh:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1132419136

This is my first time using a fluid wagon, and I'm not familiar with liquid dynamics. How can I increase the fill rate?

My guess is that it's not enough oil in the pipes.. Look at your pipes and check the number of how much oil is in the pipes. If it's 9-10, that means it's being limited by throughput / amount of pipes and pumps, if it's under that it means it's flowing freely.

Nice.

[Warlord]

Being limited by the pumps (the 3 loading the train) and pipes (the one leading to the train) are a significantly different issue than not having enough being produced via the pumpJACKS (the source of the fluid).

I tend to take what people write very literally, and nobody mentioned the pumpjacks as being the biggest throttle and were offering advice on how to improve the flow of fluids into a train. Maximizing the flow through pipes by suggesting space-consuming double-sided train load designs, or using non-symmetric tank-pump layouts are an advanced feature that I didn't feel the OP needed to know at this point in time (someone who asked why their 8 pumpjacks took so long to fill a wagon).

[KatherineOfSky]

@Warlord -- I never assume that the screenshot shows everything. There could be more pumpjacks connected.

[Lady Naween]

psst warlord, I did mention that ^^

[Warlord]

Originally posted by Linda Hartlen:

psst warlord, I did mention that ^^

*In petulant voice* NO! I WAS RIGHT! NOT YOU ALL! I... screw it. There's no point in arguing over this anyway.
*Walks away in surrender*