Will this game run on my ancient laptop?

[H a l]

Specs:

Windows 7 x64 SP1
Intel Core i5 CPU M 560 @ 2.67GHz
6.00GB RAM
Intel HD Graphics (64MB VRAM)

Before anyone asks why I'm using such a dated computer, I am extremely poor.

[DCYW]

what version is your HD Graphics?

[Qlimax]

go for it, you can get the zip file from the main site for fast install to test it

[H a l]

Początkowo opublikowane przez DCYW:

what version is your HD Graphics?

The chip type is called "Intel(R) HD Graphics (Core i5)" when I look under Properties. I think it's just a generic one.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Intel's site doesn't list anything beyond HD graphics either. So probably really bad. Still you probably can run the game just about on the standard graphics settings rather than high (likely would run out of memory for anything beyond normal)

[ENIGMA]

factorio is realy light onyour gpu so that should not realy be a problem just turn down the graphics and im playing on a e8400 2 dual core processor with 60ups/fps 4 gb ram the only realy thing to worry about is that 32 bit is not suported any more but since you have a 64 bit windows...
yea i would say go for it

[Teh Freek]

Początkowo opublikowane przez A BLAZE IN THE NORTHERN SKY:

Intel HD Graphics (64MB VRAM)

Nope. Factorio needs at least 512MB, maybe as low as 384MB, of video memory to run properly. You are going to have badly-distorted visuals assuming it even finishes starting up at all.

[ENIGMA]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Teh Freek:

Początkowo opublikowane przez A BLAZE IN THE NORTHERN SKY:

Intel HD Graphics (64MB VRAM)

Nope. Factorio needs at least 512MB, maybe as low as 384MB, of video memory to run properly. You are going to have badly-distorted visuals assuming it even finishes starting up at all.

ah that might be the only isue then but you can have a gt710 low profile like me for €37 surly that within buget

[mtilsted]

Try to download the demo and run it. My guess is that it will run acceptable as long as you are not close to a steam engine.

[ENIGMA]

Początkowo opublikowane przez mtilsted:

Try to download the demo and run it. My guess is that it will run acceptable as long as you are not close to a steam engine.

yes also nobody has good enough pc anyway this game just ends wen your cpu melts so on the bright side you will finnish much sooner

[Killcreek2]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Teh Freek:

Początkowo opublikowane przez A BLAZE IN THE NORTHERN SKY:

Intel HD Graphics (64MB VRAM)

Nope. Factorio needs at least 512MB, maybe as low as 384MB, of video memory to run properly. You are going to have badly-distorted visuals assuming it even finishes starting up at all.

Actually, with integrated graphics such as the OP has, it poaches the system ram as needed. OP will likely have 4GB + used for system operations, and the remaining 1-2GB used by the onboard graphics [that 64MB is the bus cache, not the Vmem].

Should be ok for a small-med sized factory.

[[ATS] Mercnet]

It is a sprite based game so it isnt GFX intensive, however, it is CPU intensive as there are billions of calucations going on in even a moderate factory.

[Kai]

You have to setup caching on your laptop's side of thing. You can speed up the game if you get a USB flash drive to use as a speed boost for windows 7, but it isn't much of a game changer.

You'd have to install your game on a sort of 'ramdisk' to have it perform well in regards to memory, but the CPU limitations is always going to be there, especially on a low grade i5 laptop part (always consider laptop versions to be 50% performance of the full desktop versions, as their TDP is tuned way down to lower heat).

I also can see that cpu having no hyperthreading, so it's single threading performance can't be boosted, meaning you literally have 4 physical cores that's gimped down to half their overall performance (2.67Ghz seems like their 'max' output, a desktop version ranges up to 4Ghz basically).

And it being a laptop cpu on a laptop bios and board, you can't tweak said performance... Unless you could tune the bios of said computer if in the rare case it supports that.

Also what is your laptop's model name?

Oh turns out it's not even a quad core processor:
http://ark.intel.com/products/49653/Intel-Core-i5-560M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_66-GHz


# of Cores 2
# of Threads 4
Processor Base Frequency 2.66 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.20 GHz
Cache 3 MB SmartCache
Bus Speed 2.5 GT/s DMI
TDP 35 W


It's a dual core processor.


Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 8 GB
Memory Types DDR3 800/1066
Max # of Memory Channels 2
Max Memory Bandwidth 17.1 GB/s
Physical Address Extensions 36-bit
ECC Memory Supported ‡ No

So you are restricted to a crappy 800~1066mhz of DDR3 DIMMs... Comparing that to desktop DDR3 where the average ram module that is cheap to get, is at 1333~1600mhz.

DDR4 allows you to tune RAM speeds up to 3000~4000mhz btw, but these are more expensive.


Graphics Specifications

Processor Graphics ‡ Intel® HD Graphics
Graphics Base Frequency 500 MHz
Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency 766 MHz
Intel® Flexible Display Interface (Intel® FDI) Yes
Intel® Clear Video HD Technology Yes
Intel® Clear Video Technology Yes
Macrovision* License Required No
# of Displays Supported ‡ 2

You have a minimum-maximum GPU frequency of 500~766Mhz, that's about half of a RX 460 here... Searching for the graphical components on benchmark sites and can't find them exactly, it's way too old, as the oldest one is a 2011 mobile GPU, this one OP has is a 2010 CPU.

[H a l]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kai:

You have to setup caching on your laptop's side of thing. You can speed up the game if you get a USB flash drive to use as a speed boost for windows 7, but it isn't much of a game changer.

You'd have to install your game on a sort of 'ramdisk' to have it perform well in regards to memory, but the CPU limitations is always going to be there, especially on a low grade i5 laptop part (always consider laptop versions to be 50% performance of the full desktop versions, as their TDP is tuned way down to lower heat).

I also can see that cpu having no hyperthreading, so it's single threading performance can't be boosted, meaning you literally have 4 physical cores that's gimped down to half their overall performance (2.67Ghz seems like their 'max' output, a desktop version ranges up to 4Ghz basically).

And it being a laptop cpu on a laptop bios and board, you can't tweak said performance... Unless you could tune the bios of said computer if in the rare case it supports that.

Also what is your laptop's model name?

Oh turns out it's not even a quad core processor:
http://ark.intel.com/products/49653/Intel-Core-i5-560M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_66-GHz


# of Cores 2
# of Threads 4
Processor Base Frequency 2.66 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.20 GHz
Cache 3 MB SmartCache
Bus Speed 2.5 GT/s DMI
TDP 35 W


It's a dual core processor.


Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 8 GB
Memory Types DDR3 800/1066
Max # of Memory Channels 2
Max Memory Bandwidth 17.1 GB/s
Physical Address Extensions 36-bit
ECC Memory Supported ‡ No

So you are restricted to a crappy 800~1066mhz of DDR3 DIMMs... Comparing that to desktop DDR3 where the average ram module that is cheap to get, is at 1333~1600mhz.

DDR4 allows you to tune RAM speeds up to 3000~4000mhz btw, but these are more expensive.


Graphics Specifications

Processor Graphics ‡ Intel® HD Graphics
Graphics Base Frequency 500 MHz
Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency 766 MHz
Intel® Flexible Display Interface (Intel® FDI) Yes
Intel® Clear Video HD Technology Yes
Intel® Clear Video Technology Yes
Macrovision* License Required No
# of Displays Supported ‡ 2

You have a minimum-maximum GPU frequency of 500~766Mhz, that's about half of a RX 460 here... Searching for the graphical components on benchmark sites and can't find them exactly, it's way too old, as the oldest one is a 2011 mobile GPU, this one OP has is a 2010 CPU.

The model is a Dell Latitude E6410, thanks for your information though

[impetus_maximus]

see if you can enter BIOS and if there is an option to change the shared memory for the integrated graphics. if you can set it to at least 512MB, try the demo and see how she run.

with only 6GB of ram, lower processing power, if it does run you will run into UPS (updates per second) slow downs earlier in your factories growth than newer processors. some folks run the game at half speed on larger factories or on slower systems.

the game likes memory speed and single thread performance. it is multi threaded. 1 for simulation calculations, and 1 (or more) for graphics. more threads will prob be in the future of the game but the devs are optimizing the crap out of what they are using now. which is AWESOME!

i have toaster HD-3000 graphics and the game runs a solid 60FPS if i'm not near a lot of smoke (which you can turn off in settings). granted i have a 2500K running @ 4.3Ghz.

again, see if you can increase the shared memory for the graphics.

[ENIGMA]

Początkowo opublikowane przez impetus maximus:

see if you can enter BIOS and if there is an option to change the shared memory for the integrated graphics. if you can set it to at least 512MB, try the demo and see how she run.

with only 6GB of ram, lower processing power, if it does run you will run into UPS (updates per second) slow downs earlier in your factories growth than newer processors. some folks run the game at half speed on larger factories or on slower systems.

the game likes memory speed and single thread performance. it is multi threaded. 1 for simulation calculations, and 1 (or more) for graphics. more threads will prob be in the future of the game but the devs are optimizing the crap out of what they are using now. which is AWESOME!

i have toaster HD-3000 graphics and the game runs a solid 60FPS if i'm not near a lot of smoke (which you can turn off in settings). granted i have a 2500K running @ 4.3Ghz.

again, see if you can increase the shared memory for the graphics.

also i think there is a mod where smoke lag is reduced more then by just truning smoke off