Hard decision. Factorio or Rimworld?

[Addictions]

Hi guys
As title states. I can choose only one and would want to hear opinion of somebody who played both games. Which one should I chose?

[Violeta]

Publicado originalmente por Nellvan:

Publicado originalmente por Whiplash:

Rimworld is to Dwarf Fortress in the same way a scoop of vanilla ice cream is to a massive, loaded banana split sundae with nuts, chocholate syrup and twinkle coat jimmies. Eaten on a yacht, surrounded by super models and liquor. After winning the lottery. On the eve of your election as president. Two months before you are the first person to land on mars.

Yeah just with the addition that you'll never experience this cause you couldn't figure out the damn description where the pier is, since it's all written backwards, in hyroglyphs. Using some sort of magic ink that you don't know to how turn visible.

... just playing devil's advocate here, I do love Dwarf Fortress. Can't deny that not everybody will get along with it, though. Imo Rimworld is one of better, maybe the best of the DF-inspired games.

I'm a bit suprised how often this question comes up, both games are really quite different.
Get Rimworld for colony building / management with an attidude and if you gel with "Losing is Fun".
Get Factorio for sandbox-y engineering puzzling and potentially endless tweaking and tinkering.

Both are large base building RTS games with the end goal of launching a ship into space and amassing tons of resources along the way. Both have you at times battling aliens and dealing with increasingly powerful raids.

[Name Lips]

They are both awesome games, though I tend to lean towards Factorio. Rimworld is about struggling to get a group of idiots to survive in the face of adversity. They frequently don't do what you want, have breakdowns, get in fights, or have psycological issues that prevent them from being as useful as they could be. But the stories! The best part of the game is the emergent stories that arise from the interactions between the characters and their situations. The random events in the game seem designed to be despicably unfair, and frequently you find yourself in situations where there is literally no way you could have won. As long as you realize that's not the point -- the stories are the point -- you'll be fine.

Factorio is about building a giant machine. It's about automating production lines to build more and more complicated products until eventually you can make rockets. That used to be the goal. Now, with the recent patch, they've stopped even pretending that "winning" is something you should be shooting for. There's no longer an endgame, it's just growing your factory until you have something insane and terrible and beautiful all at once. You can have enemies in the world who hate the factory's pollution and attack you in waves, but they can be easily disabled if you want, making it a pure building game. The game is about tinkering, efficiency, production lines, railroads, and logic.

Loosly both games fall in the "base-building" genre, but they're very different experiences.

[anon751]

Factorio because you can play Dwarf fortress for free/a donation to Toady. The only thing Rim World has on DF is graphics. There is signifcantly more game depth in DF.

I've played a lot of DF and had lots of fun in it. My main issue with it was that I can't play it without dwarf-hack (I like easy mode) and the game tends to crash using that tool.

Now if 5 or 10 years from now if Rim World can successfuly create a game with as much depth as DF, then yea go for it. But for now it's simply not as good as DF which also happens to be cheaper.

[Fel]

Publicado originalmente por anon751:

Factorio because you can play Dwarf fortress for free/a donation to Toady. The only thing Rim World has on DF is graphics. There is signifcantly more game depth in DF.

I've played a lot of DF and had lots of fun in it. My main issue with it was that I can't play it without dwarf-hack (I like easy mode) and the game tends to crash using that tool.

Now if 5 or 10 years from now if Rim World can successfuly create a game with as much depth as DF, then yea go for it. But for now it's simply not as good as DF which also happens to be cheaper.

I can't agree with this, and it comes from someone that does enjoy playing DF once in a while.

What Rimworld offers over DF goes beyond simply graphics.
DF's UI is really bad and all over the place, and you actually need to have external tools like Therapist if you don't want to waste a lot of time searching for the informations about skill levels, jobs and current task.
DF is also very complex for new playerd, to the point where it is not that unlikely to lose many times without understanding how to set up a militia and such.

Rimworld definitely isn't as deep or complex, but it is significantly easier to learn the basics and have fun with it, and it really is on of the best DF-style games out there that tried to do the whole 'DF with graphics".

Of course, when you already know how to play DF, any of those DF-style games are going to feel lacking, because there is just too much that you can do with that game, and it is unlikely we will ever see an other game manage to pull that off again any time soon.
But for a new player, DF is a brick wall or a cliff face, and games like Rimworld are great at showing some of the strength of this style to new players, and it's likely that some will in time go towards DF for all of the "extras".

[anon751]

@ Fel ...UI is graphics, imo. Sure Rimwould looks more updated and is eaiser to player. It is also shallow or hollow compared to DF in terms of game depth and content.

I got the impression money is an important issue in this case. With that in mind get Factorio and play DF.

[Dominian]

Publicado originalmente por anon751:

@ Fel ...UI is graphics, imo. Sure Rimwould looks more updated and is eaiser to player. It is also shallow or hollow compared to DF in terms of game depth and content.

I got the impression money is an important issue in this case. With that in mind get Factorio and play DF.

I agree with Fel. The UI and gameplay of DF is simply one of the most aweful experiences a gamer can have.

I am sure you learned the basics of this game a while back and I'm not one to drool over graphics. I very much like games with simple 2D graphics, but DF just looks like a pile of ♥♥♥♥ and is harder to understand than all Paradox games combined. NO THANKS!

[the Moroneer]

if you want to build huge automized factories you should go with factorio.

but if you want to manage many colonists you should go with rimworld with the mods: S.A.L. autocrafters and steel extraction