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Kairi ♡ Dec 15, 2024 @ 11:25pm
Mobility buff to Voidpack
Being (technically) best backpack in the game, it still can't compete with Jetpack.

Since it messes with space-time to achieve such huge capacity, I suggest giving it short range teleport capability.

How it supposed to work: if you press jump key twice, transparent image of player appears to indicate, where you will teleport. Pressing it again teleports you.
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MechWarden Dec 16, 2024 @ 10:15am 
I like the idea of something that does that, but that's stepping on the toes of the Jet Pack, while it also being a really good storage pack.

If the Void Pack is going to be improved, I think doubling down on what its good at might be the best way to go about it.

We can have a short range teleport pack, but depending on how that's done (like if it mimics Exor Monks), it might be late game for it being able to teleport through walls.
Lexicon Dec 16, 2024 @ 10:17am 
I like the idea, but I can see myself spamming the jump button and throwing myself off a ledge. The dam for example. I think you would have to make a dedicated key for it.
Kairi ♡ Dec 16, 2024 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by MechWarden:
I like the idea of something that does that, but that's stepping on the toes of the Jet Pack, while it also being a really good storage pack.

If the Void Pack is going to be improved, I think doubling down on what its good at might be the best way to go about it.

We can have a short range teleport pack, but depending on how that's done (like if it mimics Exor Monks), it might be late game for it being able to teleport through walls.

No matter how much you double down on it, it won't be able to compete with enhanced mobility of Jetpack. Let's face it, no matter how large your inventory and weight reduction is, you still want mobility.
Last edited by Kairi ♡; Dec 16, 2024 @ 12:17pm
team3lost Dec 16, 2024 @ 2:55pm 
+1
MechWarden Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Kairi ♡:
Originally posted by MechWarden:
I like the idea of something that does that, but that's stepping on the toes of the Jet Pack, while it also being a really good storage pack.

If the Void Pack is going to be improved, I think doubling down on what its good at might be the best way to go about it.

We can have a short range teleport pack, but depending on how that's done (like if it mimics Exor Monks), it might be late game for it being able to teleport through walls.

No matter how much you double down on it, it won't be able to compete with enhanced mobility of Jetpack. Let's face it, no matter how large your inventory and weight reduction is, you still want mobility.
I'm sure the devs could come up with something to make the Void Pack more appealing.

But the point is that you are trying to mix two different key traits together, which could make one expensive near end-game device defunct, because of the redundant ability. There is a reason why in good game designing you don't mix key traits in gear if you want most of your stuff to be viable. Unless you plan on an item to later be replaced, don't make another item that steals its purpose.

Also there's the fact that the Jet Pack got a recent nerf because it was too good, so comparing the Void Pack to the Jet Pack isn't exactly fair. Almost any other purely storage back pack would feel lack luster compared to the freedom you get to the Jet Pack. Wishing that all other items should have the same capability typically makes things worse.

Again, I like the idea of a teleport jump pack, but as its own backpack.
Mauman Dec 16, 2024 @ 9:49pm 
Considering we have at least two more levels to go, I'd imagine we'll see an upgraded jetpack at some point.
Crochwhisle purple Dec 18, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
Making the void pack make all your items weigh like they are all in your hot bar (50% lower) would make more sense. Maybe even a slight jump bonus, or a nerf to jumping with a lot of weight on you so that the voidpack is a straight up upgrade
Last edited by Crochwhisle purple; Dec 18, 2024 @ 12:12pm
CombatWombat Dec 18, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
Let the jetpack be a jetpack and the voidpack be a heavy lifter. Whenever I go shopping I take the voidpack, bouncing around? The jetpack it is.

One fits all overloard items are boring.
Fujisawa1 Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:40pm 
I would like to see a late game teleport item though, that would be fun, and one of the few mobility upgrades I can think of that could complete with flying. It doesn't have to be a pack, could be an is, consumable, or energy item.

I agree with what everyone else here is saying, giving the voidpack mobility options would the decision between mobility and inventory much more skewed.

The other solution to this is to make the jetpack not use a backpack slot. Either a usable item, an item with its own slot, or... if they ever add a mod station later, a moddable that can be placed in backpacks. (Big fan of a mod station for things like this!)
Lexicon Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Fujisawa1:
I would like to see a late game teleport item though, that would be fun, and one of the few mobility upgrades I can think of that could complete with flying. It doesn't have to be a pack, could be an is, consumable, or energy item.

I agree with what everyone else here is saying, giving the voidpack mobility options would the decision between mobility and inventory much more skewed.

The other solution to this is to make the jetpack not use a backpack slot. Either a usable item, an item with its own slot, or... if they ever add a mod station later, a moddable that can be placed in backpacks. (Big fan of a mod station for things like this!)

Given that the Exors have a short ranged teleportation ability, its not to much of a stretch to make an item that could make us do the same. I'd say its an item that would go into the watch slot and would have it own button tied to it.
Last edited by Lexicon; Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:48pm
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Date Posted: Dec 15, 2024 @ 11:25pm
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