Intermediate Water Purification

[Satan]

Currently the two main ways to get clean water are: Boil tainted water, or make a water purifier.

The jump in quality from A to B is pretty huge, especially considering B is currently instant. I'd honestly suggest either buffing A (less water loss), nerfing B (making it not instant, perhaps?) or add an in-between recipe for water purification. I'm not sure what form that would take... Maybe a battery-powered electrolysis machine or something? Something to fill the gap would be nice.

[Buwaro Elexion]

a water purification tablet you can only add to tainted water on the boil

[MechWarden]

It can't be that complex, because it will be defunct as soon as you get the water purifier. I would feel a bit annoyed if I put work into a mid tier system, only for it to be out done 10 (maybe 20?) hours later.

The problem is that there is quite the awkward step in progression. The distance between them is a bit on the long side, but still too short for a good inbetween step.

About the only way I can think to address this is to have a found email talking about a water purification system, with parts being findable in the lab. If it is an email in Manufacturing, it will encourage players to push on to the Lab and prioritize towards progress.

That or have a distilling system that can clean water at a better rate, but is still use for other things when the filtering system is found.

[Kyna Tiona]

A simple middle step would be if we could make a big electric heater fitted for the water barrels in Manufacturing. Even without being more efficient, you're getting 2500 ml of water each barrel rather than the 250 ml from cooking pots, which greatly streamlines the process compared to running along a row of stoves with a hotbar full of pots. The switch over takes less effort than merely operating the stove rows, so it shouldn't feel like a letdown when it gets replaced soon(-ish) after.

[ViolentInsanity]

Originally posted by MechWarden:

It can't be that complex, because it will be defunct as soon as you get the water purifier. I would feel a bit annoyed if I put work into a mid tier system, only for it to be out done 10 (maybe 20?) hours later.

The problem is that there is quite the awkward step in progression. The distance between them is a bit on the long side, but still too short for a good inbetween step.

About the only way I can think to address this is to have a found email talking about a water purification system, with parts being findable in the lab. If it is an email in Manufacturing, it will encourage players to push on to the Lab and prioritize towards progress.

That or have a distilling system that can clean water at a better rate, but is still use for other things when the filtering system is found.

I agree on the Distilling prospect because it could allow you to make some Antiverse hooch from the Antiverse wheat you've been growing, might even allow for newer healing items too come to think of it.

[Kai]

Water distilling is a good idea, plus a water piping system connected to it so it refills the water on crops.

[Kai]

How about a better idea?

What if there are water treatment facilities in Cascade that you can repair and bring back into function, so sinks actually replenishes clean water faster and you can basically fix up the offices so power and water can be more reliable and doesn't shut down anymore?

This makes it so it's wise to base around these repair systems because it becomes a viable target for enemy raids to destroy it.

[Anker]

I think the intermediate stage is just letting you fill and drain pots without taking them on the stove.
Instead of taking each pot off the stove , draining it in a water container, refilling it with tainted water, and then putting it on the stove, you can just click it with a water container, then click it with a tainted water container.

This is half the clicks, which is a lot when you're almost certainly boiling at least 4 pots at once, bringing it down from 16 clicks in total down to 8, or if you're boiling 8 pots at once, bringing it down from 32 clicks to 16.

Not to mention you're going from panning your camera from your oven to your water container, probably to the side or behind you, to just keeping your camera swept over the oven, so that's less work, too.

Considering that this is something you'll be doing probably every minute until your water container is full or you get bored, reducing the amount of tedious grunt-work involved in the interaction helps a lot.

[Anker]

As an aside, I recommend bottling your water in flathill once you've opened up the shortcuts. Get some water coolers or barrels, fill them at the fountain up the ladder, then go down the ladder and boil them in the working 8-spot stove directly below it. Two ovens side by side, nearby water source, should tide you over as best as you can hope for until sector 3.

[Kyna Tiona]

Originally posted by Anker:

As an aside, I recommend bottling your water in flathill once you've opened up the shortcuts. Get some water coolers or barrels, fill them at the fountain up the ladder, then go down the ladder and boil them in the working 8-spot stove directly below it. Two ovens side by side, nearby water source, should tide you over as best as you can hope for until sector 3.

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[Anker]

And of course, you can forgo water entirely if you aren't growing many plants, and just bottle Antejuice at the lake in sector 2. It works the same as water for soups and drinking and you don't have to purify it, so a trip there and back with all the water containers you have in a platform cart and you're good for a while.

[Anker]

Originally posted by Kyna Tiona:

Originally posted by Anker:

As an aside, I recommend bottling your water in flathill once you've opened up the shortcuts. Get some water coolers or barrels, fill them at the fountain up the ladder, then go down the ladder and boil them in the working 8-spot stove directly below it. Two ovens side by side, nearby water source, should tide you over as best as you can hope for until sector 3.

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I respect the industrial level water purification hustle.

[CombatWombat]

+1 for intermediate

[Limesy]

Honestly it could even be attached to the cooking skill. The higher your cooking, the more water you keep after boiling.

[Robocopmax]

How about an powered electrolyzer? Could break tainted water into hydrogen, oxygen and impurities, then recombine hydrogen and oxygen into table water. We can get an battery charger in manufacturing, would be fitting.

[Abyssal Crow]

Water filter should just act like the purifying does, takes time and returns 25% of the water value given. This would still be a massive jump since 1 water filter would be outputting 25 cooking pots worth of water for the same time frame, but it wouldn't be as op as it currently is where you just shotgun blast 100k water in a minute at most.