More Methods like the Rat Pack

[NEITH]

but that's a guaranteed drop that only happens if you follow the method.

I see a lot of posts related to RNG grind and it would be nice to have some way to increase chances when doing certain things.

Like increasing the chance to visit the Distant Shore the more lasers are powering the portal toilet or killing the Symphonist with a kitchen knife while it's frozen with a slushie bomb doubles the chance of it dropping keys.

Something to make it less of a grind and more of a challenge.

[Avengernaut]

Ya, having some way to increase drop chances from enemies and some of those rare RNG's might be nice... I don't like that the rat pack is ONLY obtainable using a specific method though.

When it comes to killing enemies in specific ways.... as long as its not overly annoying or tedious to have to do, then it might be ok. Like how if you use the x-ray gun on IS-0059 (aka Reaper) it drops night essence. One of the problems is the methods need to be stuff that is easy for the player to discover, and easy to understand that it is that method that is causing the drops to happen, otherwise you'd only really know by reading the wiki (like the rat pack drops). But there should also be other ways to "farm" things too. If the RNG rates were just not so abysmally low for the most part and enemies more reliable and easier to farm, then it might not even be an issue in the first place.

[MechWarden]

Originally posted by Avengernaut:

Ya, having some way to increase drop chances from enemies and some of those rare RNG's might be nice... I don't like that the rat pack is ONLY obtainable using a specific method though.

When it comes to killing enemies in specific ways.... as long as its not overly annoying or tedious to have to do, then it might be ok. Like how if you use the x-ray gun on IS-0059 (aka Reaper) it drops night essence. One of the problems is the methods need to be stuff that is easy for the player to discover, and easy to understand that it is that method that is causing the drops to happen, otherwise you'd only really know by reading the wiki (like the rat pack drops). But there should also be other ways to "farm" things too. If the RNG rates were just not so abysmally low for the most part and enemies more reliable and easier to farm, then it might not even be an issue in the first place.

I agree (and was about to write the same thing), the methods need to make sense and can be easy to understand. The Lab Rat drop is still a shaky example, since that's still kind of easy to miss.

Besides that issue, I like the idea, and wish we had more things like it.

[CombatWombat]

You risk that people that do not spoil themselves by reading the wiki will never find these items.

[MechWarden]

Originally posted by CombatWombat:

You risk that people that do not spoil themselves by reading the wiki will never find these items.

What, and not find a rare and secret item drop?

Joking jab aside, that's what I mean by making it understandable (as a known mechanic) so that people don't have to look up the wiki. Right now with the Lab Rat it is a neat idea, and I got so much leather from just shaking down that guy, but it is still too easy for a player to not notice and not catch on to that (currently unusual) feature.

I don't care if the mechanic is brought up two or three sectors in (and causes players to have to revisit old places and old enemy and rediscover things in a new light), just as long it is brought up somewhere and properly demonstrated.

[die peacefully]

just increase the loot chance
no need for any "tricks" for distant shore or organs/keys

[MechWarden]

That wasn't the point of the idea. It was to give some interesting agency to the player, rather than give a boring increase to drop chances.

[Fujisawa1]

I like the tricks, as long as the game tells you about them. The only way to get the rat pack is basically to learn it from someone else, unless your just a huge fan of shooting the nut gun at everything!

An E-mail suggesting the netgun for catching quick rats, would also be very appreciated.

[MechWarden]

Originally posted by Fujisawa1:

...unless your just a huge fan of shooting the nut gun at everything!
...

I'm sorry, but now I have a need to suggest to the devs that we should have a Nut Gun.