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CynicDragon Jul 18, 2024 @ 5:23am
need ability to remove sleep and toilet minigames
these minigames don't fit the rest of the game, and are very annoying as they force you away from the actual game, and try to change the game genre on you, the ability to disable these minigames are missing from the sandbox settings
Last edited by CynicDragon; Jul 18, 2024 @ 3:06pm
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Ethical Lune Jul 18, 2024 @ 6:33am 
I don't know if I'm supposed to facepalm or laugh at this.
mr steal ur spell Jul 18, 2024 @ 6:49am 
you can disable the toilet minigame by by filling your pants. you even get loot for doing this.
the sleep minigame can also be disabled by lmao dude just drink coffee and make mugnades but seriously you can sit down or just fail the sleep minigame entirely
Dragontoast Jul 18, 2024 @ 7:04am 
The minigames are there so you get better visual feedback of bar progression and are not forced away by an otherwise extremely long AFK activity.

I stand by your choice of wanting to torture yourself but I don't personally care for it.
Monokuma Jul 18, 2024 @ 7:14am 
I disagree with your motivation for this toggle but support the idea of it being in the sandbox options anyway.
MechWarden Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:18am 
Technically no one is forcing you, since you can choose to do nothing and it will still progress with no inputs by you. Heck, you could walk away and grab yourself a drink and still return in time before it's done.

However, waiting that long is very boring in game, so that's why the mini-game is there, to reduce the wait time by rewarding you for being a bit active in (hopefully) a slightly amusing and engaging way.

Letting time pass is expected while sleeping or going to the restroom, so making it instant would seem weird too. And no, speeding up in game time is not an option for a multiplayer built game like this.

The only thing that's forcing you is the impulse that's been trained into you by other games to do as you are expected to do when given a prompt. You should give The Stanley Parable a play if you are having problems resisting pressing buttons when told to do so.
(Seriously, it is a great meta-commentary game!)

That said, turning off mini games could be an option, but it would be a rather boring one. It would mean being forced to wait some amount of time for each activity to finish, though no where near as long as you would were to do no inputs in a mini game, but likely not be as fast as if you participated.
Last edited by MechWarden; Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:22am
Eric Andrew Jul 18, 2024 @ 9:41am 
Usually, when I take a mean sh*t, I like to be occupied, so I'll look at my phone and Google up photos of sausages, so this game is just letting me stay occupied while I take a virtual poo poo, just like in real life, but without the sausages.
Monokuma Jul 18, 2024 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by YungPro:
Since when do players want less freedoms and less in game options and less ability to customize experiences to fit the needs of the players? Preference settings is what QOL is, and asking for QOL options should be a good thing
I mean, if you've been paying attention to this thread, most of us are either unbothered or supportive of the suggestion itself, it's just that we disagree with your mindset that lead to the suggestion.
MechWarden Jul 18, 2024 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by YungPro:
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Imagine if you were playing half life and each time you reload your gun you had to do a Barbie dress up minigame,
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It feels like you are overthinking this. It is just two mini games to help pass the time. There is nothing else intrusive going on.

Though if you want to suggest a reloading mini game...
Have you played Gears of War? There is a dead simple mini game for reloading weapons.
https://gearsofwar.fandom.com/wiki/Active_Reload

(I kid, I'd rather not have another mechanic added to combat, especially when aiming is already a mini-game and a half to figure out)
Originally posted by YungPro:
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I refuse to believe the only option is lay on my back and play dead when the potty humor lion, or the imitation mario barges into the game play,
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Potty humor? Do you hear farts when doing it? No. There is just a water flushing sound, and that's it. There is no gratuitous toilet stuff happening. Yes, it is an uncomfortable topic, but they aren't playing it up for laughs. Pooping and waste management is literally part of survival.
(it can literally play a part in farming)

And it isn't anywhere near as bad as Ark. :steamfacepalm:
Originally posted by YungPro:
Minecraft did it right, you...
So just copy Minecraft and be boring and done with it that easily?

The devs didn't want to mess with in-game time leaping ahead, so some amount of waiting is going to happen while sleeping. You either sit there and do nothing, or do a little time waster and get done faster. There's nothing nefarious or gross about it.

Plus, the devs even tried to word the toilet mini game in a nice way. They didn't even come close to describing it as, how did you put it?
Originally posted by YungPro:
"how smooth would you like your feces to slide out of your anus?"
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Would be great to be able to play a game without having potty training tutorials forced on you.
That's more telling about you than about the devs.
Originally posted by Monokuma:
Originally posted by YungPro:
Since when do players want less freedoms and less in game options and less ability to customize experiences to fit the needs of the players? Preference settings is what QOL is, and asking for QOL options should be a good thing
I mean, if you've been paying attention to this thread, most of us are either unbothered or supportive of the suggestion itself, it's just that we disagree with your mindset that lead to the suggestion.
And I agree with this.

I'm fine with an option to have mini games be turned off via a setting, but it will make things boring as the wait time will be somewhere between the min and max time you'd otherwise get if you did do the mini game.
TBgλmer Jul 18, 2024 @ 2:51pm 
i thought the sleeping minigame was just so you dont get bored, not even to speed it up, its perfectly fine you just bugging
CynicDragon Jul 18, 2024 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by MechWarden:
Originally posted by YungPro:
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Imagine if you were playing half life and each time you reload your gun you had to do a Barbie dress up minigame,
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It feels like you are overthinking this. It is just two mini games to help pass the time. There is nothing else intrusive going on.

Though if you want to suggest a reloading mini game...
Have you played Gears of War? There is a dead simple mini game for reloading weapons.
https://gearsofwar.fandom.com/wiki/Active_Reload

(I kid, I'd rather not have another mechanic added to combat, especially when aiming is already a mini-game and a half to figure out)
Originally posted by YungPro:
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I refuse to believe the only option is lay on my back and play dead when the potty humor lion, or the imitation mario barges into the game play,
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Potty humor? Do you hear farts when doing it? No. There is just a water flushing sound, and that's it. There is no gratuitous toilet stuff happening. Yes, it is an uncomfortable topic, but they aren't playing it up for laughs. Pooping and waste management is literally part of survival.
(it can literally play a part in farming)

And it isn't anywhere near as bad as Ark. :steamfacepalm:
Originally posted by YungPro:
Minecraft did it right, you...
So just copy Minecraft and be boring and done with it that easily?

The devs didn't want to mess with in-game time leaping ahead, so some amount of waiting is going to happen while sleeping. You either sit there and do nothing, or do a little time waster and get done faster. There's nothing nefarious or gross about it.

Plus, the devs even tried to word the toilet mini game in a nice way. They didn't even come close to describing it as, how did you put it?
Originally posted by YungPro:
"how smooth would you like your feces to slide out of your anus?"
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Would be great to be able to play a game without having potty training tutorials forced on you.
That's more telling about you than about the devs.
Originally posted by Monokuma:
I mean, if you've been paying attention to this thread, most of us are either unbothered or supportive of the suggestion itself, it's just that we disagree with your mindset that lead to the suggestion.
And I agree with this.

I'm fine with an option to have mini games be turned off via a setting, but it will make things boring as the wait time will be somewhere between the min and max time you'd otherwise get if you did do the mini game.
Believe it or not, I appreciate your perspective, thanks for your thoughts, it's possible I am over thinking it, I didn't consider that yet lol, sounds like I should stay clear of Ark eh? And count my blessings lol, oh and I am totally fine with a long wait time, if it meant no mini games, ironically I do think that the research mini game is excellent, and there actually is a setting to turn that off, the only one I want kept lol Guess I'll use them as an opportunity to practice flexibility/tolerance, i admit i was proven wrong, part of what we do as scientists
Last edited by CynicDragon; Jul 18, 2024 @ 4:37pm
Monokuma Jul 18, 2024 @ 3:14pm 
Honestly I'm just going to give you kudos for being level headed enough to listen to feedback, despite the disagreements.
ᔕIᑕᕼ Jul 19, 2024 @ 4:02am 
I'm right there with you. I hate when survival games have survival elements in them. Sooo annoying!
A kobold Jul 19, 2024 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by ѕℓ¢н:
I'm right there with you. I hate when survival games have survival elements in them. Sooo annoying!

ok Had to give that sarcasm a slow clap...


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anyway on topic. the option to disable them would be a good option, that said they do fit the games style and humor. Also the sleeping one gives some feedback to it, for example if the layek targets you while you are sleeping she appears in the minigame giving you the ability to quickly get up and deal with her.

that said your dislike of minigames confuses me, as mini games are mainly used to prevent fatigue in games, allowing you to distract yourself with something else for a few moments.

and Abiotics are none intrusive.
Ferbafoo Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:21am 
skill issue
mr steal ur spell Jul 19, 2024 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by Eric Andrew:
Usually, when I take a mean sh*t, I like to ... Google up photos of sausages

what
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