Abiotic Factor

Abiotic Factor

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Heavy weapons swing too slow or dont do enough damage to justify using them.
Heavy weapons dont do enough to justify the dramatic swing speed decrease when enemies, especially in hydroplant, take 4+ hits to kill while they can teleport and blow holes in you with minimal effort
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Zap Girl Aug 21, 2024 @ 7:28am 
yeah, I don't use heavy weapon cause I'm not good at knowing where they'll be when the swing comes down, especially without the ability to hold it like light weapons charged swing
Bonkers Aug 21, 2024 @ 7:45am 
If you have at least enough strength to use them properly (8), they're actually pretty decent. They can can oneshot pretty much anything with sneak attacks, oneshot fodder enemies and are okay for bigger stuff if you lead you attacks. They are cumbersome, though and definitely tough to use if you're not at least somewhat tanky. As always, you gotta pick the right weapon (type) for the right job.
Vuur Aug 21, 2024 @ 7:55am 
100% agree. Higher strength should allow you to attack faster with heavy weapons.
mr steal ur spell Aug 21, 2024 @ 7:55am 
+1 heavy weapons kind of a noob trap unless you lean into it
Fujisawa1 Aug 21, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
They allow a heavy strike with a shield equipped. But is that worth it? I doubt it, but I'm curious if anyone has found it viable.
Insano-Man Aug 21, 2024 @ 12:58pm 
The only real use I've personally found for heavy weapons is that sneak attacks give you a huge Sneaking XP bonus, and will instantly kill most medium-sized enemies if you land it on their head.

Other than that, they're not great. I don't get why the charge attack has a second wind-up associated with it.
Fujisawa1 Sep 1, 2024 @ 11:19pm 
1. Learned that some heavy weapons in fact don't allow a shield.

2. Charge attack? As far as I know, they only have 1 attack, with just 1 long wind-up. Am I missing something?
Insano-Man Sep 2, 2024 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Fujisawa1:
2. Charge attack? As far as I know, they only have 1 attack, with just 1 long wind-up. Am I missing something?
Power attack with RMB. It winds up the same as normal blunt weapons, but then does the heavy weapon wind-up when you let go.
Last edited by Insano-Man; Sep 2, 2024 @ 5:57am
Drekkennought Sep 2, 2024 @ 6:54am 
If you could at least hold the attack, like you can with light charge attacks, it would make them more appealing to use. As they are now, their windup is too slow to reliably use against erratic and quick enemies.
CombatWombat Sep 2, 2024 @ 7:07am 
Heavy weapons need a big overhaul imo. I never bother with them besides crafting and putting them on an item stand.
ULTRA Sep 2, 2024 @ 10:37am 
People will give their lives for the carbon pickaxe but yeah, mechanically they're terrible and I wouldn't use them unless they had some secondary effect (explosions etc.) and it were for a one-time sneak attack.
Kai Sep 2, 2024 @ 5:45pm 
1) Knockback effects. Heavy weapons should feel impactful, so being able to bat a enemy across the room with a charged strike makes sense.
2) Proficiency. If you are good at swinging something heavy, your whole body will adjust and do it much more efficiently, or maybe find a better way to swing them (such as spinning in place to build momentum instead of trying to raise the weapon in order to bring it down).

Having 'sprinting' be used as a wind up to attack with heavy weapons makes the most sense, imagine you sprint and hold RMB, you will start charging and rushing at a target, the moment you bump into them, you auto-hit causing them to fly back if they aren't heavy.
Last edited by Kai; Sep 2, 2024 @ 5:46pm
Fujisawa1 Sep 3, 2024 @ 10:15am 
Strange, I just tried this with 5 different heavy weapons, no shield equipped. I have 14 blunt melee, and max strength. Right clicking does absolutely nothing. Am I missing something?
Last edited by Fujisawa1; Sep 3, 2024 @ 10:15am
Monokuma Sep 3, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Fujisawa1:
Strange, I just tried this with 5 different heavy weapons, no shield equipped. I have 14 blunt melee, and max strength. Right clicking does absolutely nothing. Am I missing something?
The impact hammer has a charge-up ability but still has a delayed swing, did you try that one?
Last edited by Monokuma; Sep 3, 2024 @ 3:13pm
Fujisawa1 Sep 4, 2024 @ 2:23pm 
Yes. Maybe only if you use ammo, I did not try that. The ammo isn't really worth the cost.
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Date Posted: Aug 21, 2024 @ 7:08am
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