Where are all the other GATE guns?

[Darkchaos]

I've replayed the tutorial prologue to see if I can discover interesting info, and one of the things I discovered is that GATE does actually have other guns besides security pistols.

The guard driving you into the facility clearly has a shotgun in the car, and the topside building has an armory locker with armor, a shotgun and shells.

So GATE clearly does have better guns available, but where are they? Even when we go into security we only find additional security pistols.

[Crochwhisle purple]

some GATEkeepers are hording them for themselfs. February 4th is when we will get them for ourselfs

[Darkchaos]

Originally posted by Crochwhisle purple:

some GATEkeepers are hording them for themselfs. February 4th is when we will get them for ourselfs

Let's hope so, although I suspect that won't happen due to the devs' hatred of guns.

[Kairi ♡]

I suppose GATE security took guns with them, when they retreated deeper into facility.

[Darkchaos]

Originally posted by Kairi ♡:

I suppose GATE security took guns with them, when they retreated deeper into facility.

Maybe, but you find plenty of dead GATE security officers and they don't have anything better than a security pistol. This is even considering the fact that the Gatekeepers left the security officers to fight the Order at the dam while they pushed through to reactors and none of them have anything better either.

[Hooman]

Reminder that you can see a GATE Keeper as well in the command center. Didn't seem like you could take a gun from them even though they definitely have a gun in the trailer.

[Darkchaos]

Originally posted by Hooman:

Reminder that you can see a GATE Keeper as well in the command center. Didn't seem like you could take a gun from them even though they definitely have a gun in the trailer.

That one is actually excusable because if he had a fancy gun then the Order likely stole it before you got there.

[Crochwhisle purple]

Originally posted by Darkchaos:

Originally posted by Hooman:

Reminder that you can see a GATE Keeper as well in the command center. Didn't seem like you could take a gun from them even though they definitely have a gun in the trailer.

That one is actually excusable because if he had a fancy gun then the Order likely stole it before you got there.

also are scientists are gun stupid, so maybe they had a brain fart like in TWD when the main characters came to that doc and didn`t take any of the military guys`s guns that were just laying about

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by Darkchaos:

Originally posted by Crochwhisle purple:

some GATEkeepers are hording them for themselfs. February 4th is when we will get them for ourselfs

Let's hope so, although I suspect that won't happen due to the devs' hatred of guns.

If the devs hated guns, they wouldn't be obtainable by the players and we wouldn't have gotten several new ones in the last major update. Why throw around such pointless exaggeration?

[Darkchaos]

Originally posted by Bonkers:

Originally posted by Darkchaos:

Let's hope so, although I suspect that won't happen due to the devs' hatred of guns.

If the devs hated guns, they wouldn't be obtainable by the players and we wouldn't have gotten several new ones in the last major update. Why throw around such pointless exaggeration?

If you have actually tried to use guns you'd discover just how miserable it is to use them. The devs have made it very clear that they want you to use the science weapons over the overworld guns, and that is why you not only have to deal with scarce ammo but also using the biometric/bio-mimic armbands to bypass the security on guns.

But even the science ranged weapons that use ammo mostly suck as the ammo for most things is very expensive to the point it's often not worth using them.

And despite all these problems, guns are often getting nerfs. During the Canaan update people were complaining that the shotgun was nerfed when that wasn't really necessary due to how much of a hassle it was to use.

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by Darkchaos:

Originally posted by Bonkers:

If the devs hated guns, they wouldn't be obtainable by the players and we wouldn't have gotten several new ones in the last major update. Why throw around such pointless exaggeration?

If you have actually tried to use guns you'd discover just how miserable it is to use them. The devs have made it very clear that they want you to use the science weapons over the overworld guns, and that is why you not only have to deal with scarce ammo but also using the biometric/bio-mimic armbands to bypass the security on guns.

But even the science ranged weapons that use ammo mostly suck as the ammo for most things is very expensive to the point it's often not worth using them.

And despite all these problems, guns are often getting nerfs. During the Canaan update people were complaining that the shotgun was nerfed when that wasn't really necessary due to how much of a hassle it was to use.

Since the launch of early access, the guns have gotten more buffs than nerfs overall and I've used them plenty.

Don't get me wrong, there ARE a lot of problems with them, some of which you have listed.

But saying 'the devs hate overworld guns' is quite frankly ridiculous.

[Darkchaos]

Originally posted by Bonkers:

Originally posted by Darkchaos:

If you have actually tried to use guns you'd discover just how miserable it is to use them. The devs have made it very clear that they want you to use the science weapons over the overworld guns, and that is why you not only have to deal with scarce ammo but also using the biometric/bio-mimic armbands to bypass the security on guns.

But even the science ranged weapons that use ammo mostly suck as the ammo for most things is very expensive to the point it's often not worth using them.

And despite all these problems, guns are often getting nerfs. During the Canaan update people were complaining that the shotgun was nerfed when that wasn't really necessary due to how much of a hassle it was to use.

Since the launch of early access, the guns have gotten more buffs than nerfs overall and I've used them plenty.

Don't get me wrong, there ARE a lot of problems with them, some of which you have listed.

But saying 'the devs hate overworld guns' is quite frankly ridiculous.

Maybe I was being hyperbolic, but you get my point and you're getting worked up over literally nothing. You admit that I am right and guns have serious problems in their use.

Yes, they're not as awful as on launch day since you have repair kits and they no longer break down in a couple magazines, but that doesn't mean they aren't still bad.