People are softlocking the game by destroying computer parts and wasting them at the start.

[Kai]

Looks like some of the dedicated servers with 1 area unlocked stays softlocked forever because the PC cases in the first area will never respawn unless it's modified to.

[CombatWombat]

I'm pretty sure it respwaned for me. Maybe it's a bug?

[Kai]

Publicado originalmente por CombatWombat:

I'm pretty sure it respwaned for me. Maybe it's a bug?

It doesn't respawn if the 'small item respawn' checkbox is disabled for those servers it seems. When a PC spawns in with it enabled you always hear the portal noise when it happens.

I think the devs needs to add a 'condition' that if it detects a softlock or a period of time passes, the next event happens regardless and the monster breaks the door down.

[Fireman3000]

Publicado originalmente por Kai:

It doesn't respawn if the 'small item respawn' checkbox is disabled for those servers it seems. When a PC spawns in with it enabled you always hear the portal noise when it happens.

I think the devs needs to add a 'condition' that if it detects a softlock or a period of time passes, the next event happens regardless and the monster breaks the door down.

It's hard to imagine how you can spend more than 50 reels without reaching the portal with the fog...

[Kai]

Publicado originalmente por Fireman3000:

Publicado originalmente por Kai:

It doesn't respawn if the 'small item respawn' checkbox is disabled for those servers it seems. When a PC spawns in with it enabled you always hear the portal noise when it happens.

I think the devs needs to add a 'condition' that if it detects a softlock or a period of time passes, the next event happens regardless and the monster breaks the door down.

It's hard to imagine how you can spend more than 50 reels without reaching the portal with the fog...

Those dedicated servers you see being hosted are on a reset timer so it resets back to the beginning after a period (maybe each week). So players joining would aim to troll by griefing the mechanism knowing it doesn't respawn.

After a while of playing you end up in a situation where the base is set up and everything is fine on a public server and someone comes in and 'wallhax' via glitching to troll or mess around. So basically the base gets compromised as it's publicly available.

This is quite the common trend since many new games starts off on a clean slate for about 1 week, then the trolling and hacking activities picks up afterwards.

It's gotten to the point where it's mandatory for people to organize private sessions now, but sometimes people like to visit public lobbies to play with others, and that sort of public experience gets worse.

[Fireman3000]

Publicado originalmente por Kai:

Publicado originalmente por Fireman3000:

It's hard to imagine how you can spend more than 50 reels without reaching the portal with the fog...

Those dedicated servers you see being hosted are on a reset timer so it resets back to the beginning after a period (maybe each week). So players joining would aim to troll by griefing the mechanism knowing it doesn't respawn.

Hm. But the claim is still not very clear. Hacker tool level 1 can be crafted without coils. Levels 2 and 3 are the same. So there is no softlock
If you mean that on dedicated servers portals are reset once a week (real, not game), then this is a problem with the servers themselves. If we are talking about the game week, then... I don’t know how strong was troll’s, when he must be to run through portals and take things apart every 1-2 hour. And there are a lot of other things in the game that are in very limited quantities, like silver, hard carbon, gems from antiverse, leyak essences and etc.

Publicado originalmente por Kai:

It's gotten to the point where it's mandatory for people to organize private sessions now, but sometimes people like to visit public lobbies to play with others, and that sort of public experience gets worse.

Well, that goes without saying. Unfortunately, this is how all games that have survival mechanics and online functions work)

[Kai]

Publicado originalmente por Fireman3000:

Hm. But the claim is still not very clear. Hacker tool level 1 can be crafted without coils. Levels 2 and 3 are the same. So there is no softlock
If you mean that on dedicated servers portals are reset once a week (real, not game), then this is a problem with the servers themselves. If we are talking about the game week, then... I don’t know how strong was troll’s, when he must be to run through portals and take things apart every 1-2 hour. And there are a lot of other things in the game that are in very limited quantities, like silver, hard carbon, gems from antiverse, leyak essences and etc.

I'm talking about the beginning of the game where you break the first free computers for parts to make the battery for the door.
It becomes softlocked if these parts are unavailable for the door, so newer players joining days after can't be bothered to join.

You can throw items down the void and they'll get deleted, and there is one in the beginning if you go through the vents where the first carbuncle is.

They also take the effort to look or break everything of value and dump them in the void it seems.

There is a 'noclip' glitch where they can also glitch through walls using certain furnitures or vehicle objects, like a push cart.

[Fireman3000]

Publicado originalmente por Kai:

I'm talking about the beginning of the game where you break the first free computers for parts to make the battery for the door.
It becomes softlocked if these parts are unavailable for the door, so newer players joining days after can't be bothered to join.

Oh, now i remember. Yeah, it looks like softlock...

[Burning like KELT-9b]

Publicado originalmente por Kai:

Looks like some of the dedicated servers with 1 area unlocked stays softlocked forever because the PC cases in the first area will never respawn unless it's modified to.

i know its not really helping, but i still would like to let anyone know that we can force respawn any segment of the facility by deleting their respective files, the game will auto-generate a fresh one if they detect any missing files. just remember not to delete the metadata file, it'll make the save file go corrupted. im on my way to make a public server for having fun exploring by having my end-game base intact and resetting almost every part of the facility.

[MechWarden]

Just to correct something,

You cannot (normally) be softlocked near the start where you need to make your first Crafting Bench. The computer parts you need to make it will respawn fairly quickly after destruction until you get through the door and get close to security guard Warren.

That said, I can see someone making it rather barren and hellish clearing out everything and leaving nothing for new players to work with.

Also if there is a way to clip through walls, I can see how the start could be ruined by possibly clipping through the progress blocked door, talking to Warren, and having already busted the necessary computers. If someone can demonstrate if that is possible, that would be helpful for the devs to know to prevent this.

[Kai]

Publicado originalmente por MechWarden:

Just to correct something,

You cannot (normally) be softlocked near the start where you need to make your first Crafting Bench. The computer parts you need to make it will respawn fairly quickly after destruction until you get through the door and get close to security guard Warren.

That said, I can see someone making it rather barren and hellish clearing out everything and leaving nothing for new players to work with.

Also if there is a way to clip through walls, I can see how the start could be ruined by possibly clipping through the progress blocked door, talking to Warren, and having already busted the necessary computers. If someone can demonstrate if that is possible, that would be helpful for the devs to know to prevent this.

From what I learned, they use a push cart to do this, as entering and exiting it will move your position, but whether they can get the materials for that early on is anyone's guess as you need oil.

[Necroscourge]

It sounds like hyperbole. In order for what you claim to be true, they would have to be spending an hour or so destroying literally every available computer in the office every time every server reset.

Meanwhile, if you want to play the game in either way you can just host your own server painlessly. Set yourself a password and that way only your friends pop in.

[Kai]

Publicado originalmente por Necroscourge:

It sounds like hyperbole. In order for what you claim to be true, they would have to be spending an hour or so destroying literally every available computer in the office every time every server reset.

Meanwhile, if you want to play the game in either way you can just host your own server painlessly. Set yourself a password and that way only your friends pop in.

Well that's the thing, there are people who just joins a random public server and just spams like 200 paper scraps in people's bases.

I've been doing public lobbies in general that I can find and in most of my experiences, there's usually some 'speedrunner' trying to showoff by skipping flathill entirely, grabbing the power cells in one of the crates of Level 2 Offices (behind a lv2 hacker door), and beelining it for manufacturing west.

When people don't give them any attention for skipping the story, they stop playing around after the Manufacturing West, when they trigger the Leyak to spawn.

Don't get me started on them modding and making it possible to 'rapid' attack at turbo speeds, because that means they drop like 10 paper scraps a second and for some users, it will lag them hard when you get hundreds on the ground.