8-Bit Armies
xysvenxy Apr 28, 2016 @ 2:53pm
Is 'Beginner' the new 'Hard'?
Ok, I'm quite an old guy and picked up on the original C&C when I was almost 30... and that was when it was launched.

So 'my way' towards a new RTS campaign is: Well, let's see what it's like in easy mode first
'Fly Swatter' was the first mission I had to re-start and I thought: Ok. how's someone doing it on hard. Go, watch a 'lets play' then.
Wooot, that guy is starting that mission with a fully established base? WtF?

So, actually it appears as if later missions are way easier to do on hard than on beginner mode... is that really intended?

I'm totally aware that I could always play earler missions again and would have all units and load outs I have achieved in later ones - but it may just p*ss newbies off if they are trying to do the entire campaign on easy.
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SlaughterMeister Apr 28, 2016 @ 3:05pm 
The easy campaign is extremely easy to get through.

The reason why the person on hard mode has a full base is because they likely completed easy mode and normal mode, accomplishing all the bonus objectives.

Do easy mode first, it will familiarize you with the units.
xysvenxy Apr 28, 2016 @ 3:12pm 
Hey, thanks for the answer... but I consider myself as a fairly experienced RTS player. :steammocking:

My point is that all the bonus seems to be rewarded if one plays the campaign on hard from scratch - which appears to create a point where hard is becoming easier than beginner
Exlium Apr 28, 2016 @ 3:29pm 
if you play on normal or hard and complete the silver and gold bonus objectives you start future missions with more stuff. Easy mode doesn't have bonus objectives for whatever reason.
Last edited by Exlium; Apr 28, 2016 @ 3:30pm
xysvenxy Apr 28, 2016 @ 3:44pm 
Yes, I know that! That is not the point I'm making. I'm also not complaining in any way.
I'm just questioning if it's intended or if this is a sort of design flaw.
Perlin Apr 28, 2016 @ 4:15pm 
I am far to be a good RTS player, and I have no problem in the campaign to get all stars on each map, which help a lot for next missions.

So seriously, I really don't think that the game is hard on beginner :/

Go to normal mode and get all stars (or at least 2) on first missions, it will help you a lot with units / batiments unlocked.
Not Your Heroes Apr 28, 2016 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by xysvenxy:
Yes, I know that! That is not the point I'm making. I'm also not complaining in any way.
I'm just questioning if it's intended or if this is a sort of design flaw.
working as intended basically campaigns hard first go but easy to reply
PG_Ren Apr 28, 2016 @ 4:20pm 
Hi xysvenxy,

Our campaign is slightly different from other RTSs, where just playing it on “Beginner” mode would allow you to get from map 1 to the final chapter, this is I admit is true.

One of the main emphases of the campaign is that of having to collect and bring your units/structures back from the brink of extinction, by beating the assorted “Star” challenges found on each map.

“Beginner” mode is not merely a way to lower the AI difficulty setting for the map but also intended to ease the players into the concept collecting, as well as teaching the basic concepts of the game.

So “Beginner” mode for us is more of a way to allow players to familiarize themselves with the map as well as giving them a taste of how the AI thinks and reacts, and most importantly encourage them to return to beaten maps on a “Normal” mode in order to free their remaining units/structures. The further you can advance in “Beginner” will make “Normal” missions simpler…

Sorry for the “WTF” moment and I don’t feel I can give you a super satisfying answer, but it was our way of making the unlocking of each unit/structure more meaningful.
xysvenxy Apr 28, 2016 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by Genova:
I am far to be a good RTS player, and I have no problem in the campaign to get all stars on each map, which help a lot for next missions.

So seriously, I really don't think that the game is hard on beginner :/

Go to normal mode and get all stars (or at least 2) on first missions, it will help you a lot with units / batiments unlocked.
Please:
I probably wouldn't have any sort of problem to do the campaign on normal or even hard (I'm playing this type of games for 20+ years now).
The only point I'm making is: The campaign seems to turn out to get really "hard" on 'beginner' at a certain point - since you simply don't have the advancements you normally get in other modes.
Understand?
xysvenxy Apr 28, 2016 @ 4:29pm 
Hi xysvenxy, Our campaign is slightly different from other RTSs[...]this is I admit is true[/...]
See my previous post ;)
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