Call of Duty: Black Ops

Call of Duty: Black Ops

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ExpertAmateur 3. juli 2014 kl. 11:29
Zombies Comparison
Which game's version of zombies is superior to the other?

Black Ops (the first one) or World at War?

Thanks.
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Laptop 3. juli 2014 kl. 13:26 
Matter of debate. A lot say WAW.
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ExpertAmateur 3. juli 2014 kl. 13:58 
What's the key differences?
Laptop 3. juli 2014 kl. 14:03 
Mainly graphics and features really. I don't do a lot of Zombies.
Nosfrat 5. juli 2014 kl. 23:47 
WaW has full modding support and runs much better than BO ever did/will, but it also has particularly awful physics, resulting in VERY frustrating moments in zombies.

BO is better from a competitive point of view, as the physics in WaW are honestly too random and glitchy, but on the other hand, WaW can be definitely more fun, especially with friends on one of the countless custom maps.

So to sum it up: BO for the competitive player, WaW for the casual.
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ExpertAmateur 6. juli 2014 kl. 9:42 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Oy Vey!:
So to sum it up: BO for the competitive player, WaW for the casual.
Please define 'competitive'.
Nosfrat 6. juli 2014 kl. 20:25 
Oprindeligt skrevet af ExpertAmateur:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Oy Vey!:
So to sum it up: BO for the competitive player, WaW for the casual.
Please define 'competitive'.

Competitive... in the case of zombies, suitable for attempts to break personal bests or records of any kind (highest round achieved, most kills, first room challenges, no power runs, speedruns, etc.) while WaW lacks the consistency for proper competitive play.

Take the zombie' health growth for example: in WaW, it doesn't increase during dog rounds. So if you have dogs every 4 rounds you'll eventually end up facing zombies with barely half the health someone who has dogs every 5 rounds would have to face at the same round. Sure it doesn't seem like much, but it can make a difference when one kill is all you need to escape.
And more generally, everything based on luck and randomness goes against competitiveness (is that even a word?).

Of course that's just my opinion, but it's a commonly shared one, people don't usually tend to go for high rounds on WaW (except Shi No Numa maybe, due to its consistency).
Nosfrat 6. juli 2014 kl. 21:21 
Oprindeligt skrevet af M4uZinh0:
Just to make clear, that "Competitive" ruined black ops 2 zombies, that was one big mistake of treyarch, because they didn't care about fun. In zombies the more the "competitiveness", the less fun. Meanwhile world at war and black ops 1 zombies are not competitive, means endless fun, when things are simple like pick a gun and shoot zombies and reach the higher wave possible, it's not even make sense zombies be competitive because it's cooperative,objective is reach the high round possible. Black ops 2 was a disaster even as competitive because there's online leaderboards (no lobby leaderboard like black ops 1) and if someone leave in the middle of a match the record is broken and doesn't count after that. I have all zombie cods and i gave up of bo2, i only regret bought it because i can't have fun, so now i only play waw and bo1.

How in the hell is BO2 competitive? They're nerfing everything that can help achieving high rounds (Jet Gun, Sliquifier, Paralyzer...), the game's a complete mess, there's no local/offline play which means you're at the mercy of the awfully unstable servers, multiplayer network is beyond horrendous, the leaderboards are stupid... I could go on for days, BO2 might be competitive in theory but in practice it's a huge mess.
And everything you mentioned of course, plus the whole "you can't have a simple high round match without having to go on a quest around the map during the early rounds doing pointless annoying stuff that takes one hour or more, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU PLAY THE DAMN MAP" thing.
Also, Pack-a-Punching on most maps takes longer than finishing the current round with a weak wall gun.

I mean, take Call of the Dead for example, you do the easter egg thing once (which isn't overly complicated and still makes the storyline advance somewhat) and voilà you'll always get your Wunderwaffe from now on.
The Shang EE is really annoying but not needed at all, and the Moon one is fun to do, the results are absolutely gorgeous when you go back to Area 51, Samantha's voice is a funny novelty, etc. And it's NOT necessary, yet pretty easy and quick if you know what you're doing.

But no, in BO2 everything that you NEED for high rounds, you have to redo / rebuild it whenever you play. And the persistent 'perks' are the most inconsistent and confusing thing I ever saw in a CoD game.
:O 7. juli 2014 kl. 5:23 
No,Black Ops 2 Zombies are best yet - you will need to spend quite some time in it to realise ;)

Also for the main question,Black Ops 1 is better than WaW,because WaW is the first they made,there are a few mistakes that ruine the gameplay.

So,each game improved the one before.BO1 Improved WaW,and BO2 improved BO1.
Nosfrat 7. juli 2014 kl. 5:46 
Oprindeligt skrevet af GZ397Patrick Jane:
No,Black Ops 2 Zombies are best yet - you will need to spend quite some time in it to realise ;)

Also for the main question,Black Ops 1 is better than WaW,because WaW is the first they made,there are a few mistakes that ruine the gameplay.

So,each game improved the one before.BO1 Improved WaW,and BO2 improved BO1.

>tells us to play more to realize stuff
>his total WaW + BO1 + BO2 playtimes COMBINED don't amount to a quarter of my BO1 playtime

I still have (a little) more BO2 playtime than you have, easily five times your WaW playtime and nearly 24 times your BO1 playtime. I'm not trying to brag or say I know it all, but you clearly don't have enough experience or knowledge to affirm anything.

Any "BUT I PLAYED ON CONSOLE!!!!11SHIFT" reply will nullify your argument even further, as BO2 on console is sadly much better (or less awful) than it is on PC.

BO2 might seem appealing to the casual gamer who is happy with reaching round 20 with a couple of friends and calling it a day, but for people who take the game more seriously, BO2 is an outrageous mess, and a giant shaft between the buttocks from ActiviZION to those who love WaW/BO zombies.
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:O 8. juli 2014 kl. 6:55 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Oy Vey!:
Oprindeligt skrevet af GZ397Patrick Jane:
No,Black Ops 2 Zombies are best yet - you will need to spend quite some time in it to realise ;)

Also for the main question,Black Ops 1 is better than WaW,because WaW is the first they made,there are a few mistakes that ruine the gameplay.

So,each game improved the one before.BO1 Improved WaW,and BO2 improved BO1.

>tells us to play more to realize stuff
>his total WaW + BO1 + BO2 playtimes COMBINED don't amount to a quarter of my BO1 playtime

I still have (a little) more BO2 playtime than you have, easily five times your WaW playtime and nearly 24 times your BO1 playtime. I'm not trying to brag or say I know it all, but you clearly don't have enough experience or knowledge to affirm anything.

Any "BUT I PLAYED ON CONSOLE!!!!11SHIFT" reply will nullify your argument even further, as BO2 on console is sadly much better (or less awful) than it is on PC.

BO2 might seem appealing to the casual gamer who is happy with reaching round 20 with a couple of friends and calling it a day, but for people who take the game more seriously, BO2 is an outrageous mess, and a giant shaft between the buttocks from ActiviZION to those who love WaW/BO zombies.

Who said i only played it on Steam?!

Trust me,you will need to play more to realize,thats just a fact.

Akhm update: as i first didn't like BO2,i was extremely dissapointed,but,i realized how good it is,and that is just a fact,now if you can't realize,your problem ;)


Lel update 2: Maybe you only matter about graphic and a few other things,but mechanism + story + emotions of zombies is improved in each game,and it is most improved in BO2,once again,you may not be able to realize.
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Nosfrat 8. juli 2014 kl. 8:44 
Oprindeligt skrevet af GZ397Patrick Jane:
Who said i only played it on Steam?!

Trust me,you will need to play more to realize,thats just a fact.

Akhm update: as i first didn't like BO2,i was extremely dissapointed,but,i realized how good it is,and that is just a fact,now if you can't realize,your problem ;)


Lel update 2: Maybe you only matter about graphic and a few other things,but mechanism + story + emotions of zombies is improved in each game,and it is most improved in BO2,once again,you may not be able to realize.

Yeah look, you like BO2 and that's alright, but your arguments make no sense whatsoever. I mean, "mechanism + story + emotions", really?
I don't know if you know the meaning of the word "emotion", but you're gonna tell me four unlikeable characters stranded in 16-bit fog or in an upside down skyscraper are an improvement in 'emotion' and 'story' over the original cast fighting nazis on the classic maps?
Buses, elevators, building a plance, etc. in zombies are improvements in 'mechanism'? I don't think I ever heard anyone saying they like waiting for the bus/elevators, and how running around gathering plane pieces of building annoying stuff that takes upwards of half an hour just to get started is an improvement.
People play zombies to kill zombies, not to go on a quest building stuff. CoD is an arcade shooter, it's not about adventure, exploration or anything.

Between your poor English and your need to -affirm- what is either a matter of personal preference, or plainly wrong... you remind me of pathetic people like Air Control's devs trying to defend their 'game', or hardcore console fanboys trying to prove their eight year old hardware is better than a PC.

AT LEAST you admit BO2 has literally worse graphics than WaW.
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