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This is how MW3 runs on my high-end gaming notebook with the 8GB - Nvidia 980m card.
Obviously a whole different experience, but still that little Acer performs very well! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-szqNCJfs
And here is my "first look" at my high-end MSI GT72 Dominator Pro BEAST! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL9C6IBiWLk
Considering the MSI costs 5 X MORE (!!!), the Acer is WELL worth it!!! :)
Asus and Msi have models that are about 1500. with a GTX 970, i7, and 17" monitor.
not to mention mw3 is older now. did not take much to run it. i had a dual core 2.5 ghz laptop with 4 gig ram, 9800 GT 512 mb vram. and it would play mw3 fine. it would struggle on bf3 though.
getting less then 60fps is playable but nothing like maintaining 60+fps. i also believe some games run much better for single player. then when going online they get more fps drops.
but great videos though.
Here is the link:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1088038-REG/msi_gt72_dominator_pro_445_i7_4980hq_32gb_1tb_4x128ssd_windows8_1_17_3.html
Actually, NOW it's on Sale for a $100 less, but I've paid full price when I got it. And I usually have multiple units, since I get one (at least one) every single year! :)
yes i said it was that. i stated though that the 5x the amount is probably because you have ssds, max ram etc. were your acer probably has maybe if your lucky a 7200 rpm 1 tb hard drive. most of those dont though. they have a 5400 rpm hard drive.
reading he description you posted or link i should say. it has 1 TB 7200 rpm hard drive. and it has 4x 128 GB SSD hard drives, 32 gigs ram, a high end i7 4980hq, and a 980M GTX card at 8 gig Vram.
so yes that would be why its 5x
as i said for just double the price you would still get a beast. actually just over double.
for 1500 you get a 1 TB 7200 rpm hard drive, 16 gig ram, 970 GTX 3 gig vram card, i7 4710, or a couple hundred more you can get it with the same specs but also get a 256 GB SSD hard drive as well.
My point was that even WITHOUT a dedicated video card, these new "basic" laptops can handle a lot more than people would think, and ARE more than capable of supporting action games!
Since then I've seen some videos out there where the Tester (player) run Titanfall, Battlefield-4, Crysis-3 and other games on the same Intel HD 5500 chip on low settings and was able to make them work around the 30-45 FPS range, which is pretty impressive considering the price of these type of very basic laptops.
Also, this little Acer contradicts many posts where "PC Fanatics" try to emphasize that guys need the highest and best quality super-expensive PCs to play games, which is obviously not the case at all! :)
My unit is a very high-end one, but I've got these type of super-notebooks for other purposes and NOT for video gaming! :D ... I would NEVER spend so much just to play games!
By the way, to my greatest surprise, when I ran "Full Boot Tests", my SLOWEST notebook running on Win-7 was the FASTEST and my FASTEST one running on Win-8.1 was the SLOWEST of all 3! :D
Here is the clip (and I was VERY disappointed by that result)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD05OGBn7AA
but getting in the range of 30 or so fps on lowest settings though is tough at times. yes impressive that at least it can do that. better then not at all. but then you cant record unless you use a camera.
would be more impressed if it ran about 60 fps on low settings. and then get drops down to mabe 45ish if a lot happens like nades going of, cars blowing up, etc.
but still even at 1500 or so you can get a laptop that will run those games on higher settings with more fps. and then 5 years down the road maybe on low settings.
just saying that there are factors. to make the test more acurate they should use the exact same os, as well as a clean install. and make sure all the ssd hard drives are the same.
i am hoping to get a new laptop in a month or 2. right now i have a asus rog G74 model. win 7, with the GTX 560 2 gig vram card. 1 tb hard drive at 7200 rpm. i7 2630GM at 2ghz, 8 gig ram with 2 gigs allocated to help out the video card. (hopefully upgrading to 16 gig ram if not more. but i think one or both of the ram cards are going bad as i get a blue screen and a memory dump now and then.
nothing great but its a asus rog so its big and stays cool. i had another old laptop as well but lost it in our house fire. that was an asus as well but older. a G50. it was only a dual core at 2.5 ghz, 9800 GTX card with 512 mb Vram, 750 gig 7200 rpm hard drive. and 4 gig ram with 2 gigs to help the graphics. and win 7. that laptop, i was playing every game out. similar to what your acer was doing. but a couple games it would struggle on and sometimes cause it to freeze up. like BF3, other games like bo1 would run fine but i would have to wait a minute once the map loaded as it would drop down to 15 or so fps for like a minute then run fine.
my laptop now no problems and most games i still run on high settings. and get 60 fps. granted i dont max out the settings like anti aliasing and such.
my next laptop i am looking at either asus rog g751 i believe or msi model. i still want it thick and so it can cool. both were about the same. asus stays a lot cooler but the msi seems to have a nicer keyboard. not that i cant get a usb one or that the asus one does not work. both models are at best buy (which i would get rewards points to go towards either a mouse, game, or whatever). i was looking at the 1500 dollar models. i may upgrade so that i get a 256 ssd. i am just deciding if i want to get the model that already has it, as it would have the os on it. or just keep the os on the 1 tb 7200 rpm and buy it seperate (which would probably cost less) and then just use it to put games on.
yeah no one is saying you cant play. probably just not as good. but also has to do with what graphics card you have.
http://www.cnet.com/products/acer-aspire-7741g-6426-17-3-core-i5-480m-windows-7-home-premium-64-bit-4-gb-ram-640-gb-hdd/specs/
Then, obviously it should play with very good Frame-Rates.
The whole point is that people DON'T need super high-end and ultra-expensive Desktop PCs or even laptops with dedicated Video Graphics Cards any more to play action games. :)
Yes! Of course you can perform better with higher frame rates and high settings, but you should NOT NEED these to perform almost your best if you are a half-decent fps player.
Great price for the features on that ACER. I will be very happy to play in the frame rates even on the high settings!
Mine is an office laptop which was originally bought for Microsoft Office 2 years ago:
AMD A8
8Gb RAM
Win 8.1
AMD Radeon HD 7640G shared RAM GPU
Tried BO2 for laughs on a free weekend 2 years ago and found out it ran smoothly at my desktop resolution 1366x768 with 50-80 fps so I 'accidentally' went into an FPS buying frenzy acquiring most of the COD/BF/CS series etc. etc.
The beauty of BO2/MW3/MW2/COD4MW is that the difference between max settings and low is insignificant - anyway nobody has the time to admire texture detail when playing a fast-moving game like COD.
Even the badly optimized Ghosts runs ok enough at 1280x720 at 30-60fps.
I get to play the also badly optimized BF4 on lowish settings at 1024x768 and still keep frame rates most times 30-40fps - which is all I need for me to perform my best.
For somebody who still plays CS 1.6, clearly graphics is not priority - I only need 30fps and thats good enough for me to play without a significant disadvantage.
Furyan, for under $1300, what would be an ok laptop at B&H which has an NVidia GTX card - I am looking at something to run Blender or Maya or 3DS Max or Lumion reasonably. Any other makes I should consider in this Mr. Cheapskate price range? What do you think of the Lenovo Y series?
Got other reviews on other sub $1300 laptops with dedicated GPU's?
Well, in my opinion, sometimes the included dedicated cards are so weak and low performance that it is not even worth paying the extra price.
There are a couple of things to consider for a mid-level gaming quality notebook and choose what's more important, like: A good video card or SSD Drive? CPU or more RAM? Either way, for the price you always have to compromise.
I personally would recommend a BETTER Video Card over SSD and more RAM over CPU, because the CPU performance is NOT that significant compared to the comfort of having, let's say 12 or 16 GB Ram over a little bit of Clock Speed in the CPU, or a MUCH better GPU over an SSD Drive.
Many people are unaware of the fact that lots of NEW graphics cards are hardly any better than the old ones and in the NVIDIA line, the *60m series are PRETTY WEAK and LOW performance! So I ALWAYS recommend to check out the GPU Benchmark Chart (link below) for overall Score before buying a notebook, because for gaming, that IS the #1 priority over everything else!
I would rather chose an older NVIDIA *80m card for MUCH better performance than a new *60m series, just for having the "NEW" card, which performs poorly.
Here is the link, which I HIGHLY RECOMMEND checking out in details!!!
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
This chart provides vital information for any buyer who's interested in PC gaming and GPU performance. This is the MOST important factor I myself would consider over any other features of a gaming notebook! CPU, Ram, SSD - ALL come AFTER this!
I don't know the Lenovo brand, never had one. I've only had Sony VAIOs (custom made) and MSIs. The Sony was ALWAYS great (but very expensive) and the MSI was always a mess! One of my previous MSIs had motherboard burn-out (!!!), SSD Failures (!!!), the company is a NIGHTMARE (!!!), they haven't even touched my notebook for OVER A MONTH when I sent it in for repairs (!!!), then they STOLE out the original higher value Video Card and replaced it with a low-performance JUNK card (!!!), and gave me a nasty attitude when I RAGED about it, so MSI is a horror story, an absolute anti-consumer nightmarish company!
My 2 current units (I sold the GT70 not long ago), the Dragon-2 and the Dominator Pro are GOOD units, no major issues (other that the Dragon-2 can NOT be upgraded from Windows 8 to 8.1 because it would simply NOT WORK any more !!!), so maybe their new generation notebooks are better, and price-wise MSI is the most attractive brand with its features, but I still feel hesitant recommending this brand due to my personal negative experiences with this company.
HOWEVER, I can highly recommend doing business with B&H! They were the ones who replaced the junk MSI when MSI itself refused (!!!), and B&H has EXCELLENT customer service and Return policy in case of any issues! There are cheaper stores you can find, but I would rather pay a bit more for peace of mind than to suffer the consequences when trouble comes.
Well, whatever you decide, DON'T RUSH IT and just take your time, because buying a good gaming notebook requires research and if possible, first hand experience (to try it out in the store) before making a final decision.
GOOD LUCK! :)
but yes i would agree also that you are better off with a 870 or an 880 nvidia card over upgrading to a 960. and sometimes if you are on a budget even just getting the 870 or 880 over the 970 or 980 if the price is right. that may save 400 or so dollars there as well and the 870 and 880 cards are good cards.
a lot of sites allow customizing. or even downgrading to save money. xoticpc.com i beileve is a site as well. and they have many brands. sager is another brand that is cheaper then some more popular brands and can save some money or for the same price you get more.
well for single player i love playing games on max settings and stil getting high fps. cod4 for instance as its older. there are a few maps that look fantastic if ran on high settings. even if fast paced. there are some benefits as well. like shadows, tracers, muzzle flash, etc. plus if you are running a game at about 30-45 fps. and especially on low settings, then a lot of tims that means you are going to at times dip below 30 fps and get some lag.
some things even if we dont see, ingame does as well. cod4 again for example (only cause i know this game very well) there are jumps that you cant make unless you are hitting 125 fps. there are jump mods and deathrun mods that require you to hit 125, 250, and 333 fps to be able to make the jump.
and for some we can see a difference in fps from 30 to 60.
but at the same token having max out settings, yes looks great, but can give a disadvantage as well. were as having settings on low might make bushes and things not show up at a distance. so if someone is laying in a bush you can see them. were as with high settings maybe not.
also though as i said, MW3 Bo2 etc are older games. and really they do not take much to play. Bo2 plays better then Bo1 does. if you are hitting 30 fps on low settings. put Bo1 in and see what you get at the start. unless they fixed it (which a year ago it was not), then you may play smooth. otherwise you may start out with 10 fps for x amount of time. like 15 second to a minute or so at the start of each map. some other games that require more to run even on lower settings would also give you a hard time to play. i know Bf3 would play but at times cause me to crash.
and again what about in the future with newer games. this is why i prefer to pay the extra money now and get something that can play games on higher settings. this way newer games and in the future you can still play games on low settings.
if a computer can max out the settings now, and in a couple years cant but can play on low settings, then a computer that can only play low settings now wont be able to play on low settings later on. and you will have to rebuy later. were you can spend double the amount and get something now. and enjoy a better experiance now and then later still play.